Windows Live Included With Windows 7?

Reading Rob Margel’s blogpost about 5 windows 7 US college ads, I noticed something not Windows 7 specific in the list of videos: a video about Windows Live Movie Maker! Now that isn’t included in Windows 7 as far as we know…

Curious I went to the YouTube Channel the vids are on, the Windows Videos Channel, and low and behold what I found under the Windows 7 tab! There’s vids in there about Windows Live Photo Gallery too, alongside the Windows Live Movie Maker one already mentioned: one about making panorama photos, one on how to remove red-eye and crop, and one about importing pictures from your camera:
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Now notice what it says below the video:
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“All the included software in Windows 7…”, so does this mean they plan to deliver a CD with Windows Live on it with the Retail versions on Oct. 22, or is there something else we (not even the Windows 7 beta testers) don’t know about…

Update:  I’ve received the following statement which can be attributed to a Microsoft Spokesperson:

Windows Live Movie Maker and the Windows Live Essentials suite of applications will not ship with Windows 7 – these applications are available today as a free download at http://download.live.com for all Windows users to enhance their Windows experience.

That said, users who purchase a new PC with Windows 7 pre-loaded may find that their PC manufacturer has pre-installed Windows Live Essentials for their convenience. Dell is one manufacturer that will preload Windows Live Essentials on a majority of consumer and small business PCs globally.

Comments

  • http://gregsedwards.spaces.live.com gregsedwards

    Could it have something to do with the recent realignment of WL with the Windows client team? I would imagine that even though WL Essentials are not technically part of the OS, most OEMs will still install all of them on new PCs. I seem to remember hearing something about Dell’s plans to do just that. Considering the amount of crap they usually load onto new PCs, that wouldn’t suprise me a bit.

    My follow-up question is why not make virtually all of the classic accessories separate, optional components like those in WL Essentials? I mean why are Calculator, Paint, WordPad, the Snipping Tool, Media Player, etc., still part of the core OS instead of part of WL Essentials? If nothing else, it would make life easier for those of us who don’t have any use for specific accessories, because we have better alternatives. If I have Word installed, then I guarantee I’m never going to launch WordPad. Ever.

  • http://www.liveside.net/members/GoodThings2Life/default.aspx GoodThings2Life

    When you first setup a new user, Windows Live appears as part of the welcome screen “suggestions”.

    Also, it shows up as on Optional update when you run Windows Update.

  • http://www.liveside.net/members/Sunshine/default.aspx Sunshine

    Hmm yea, there’s links to Windows Live in Windows 7. Like there is a Get Windows Live Essentials link under Start > Getting Started too, but I wouldn’t call that included (you still have to download and install)…if I place a shortcut on my desktop that leads to a website offering software then that software isn’t included in Windows 7. OEMs pre-installing it isn’t what I’d call included in Windows 7 either, if they pre-install a trial version of Microsoft Office or some AV program, as they do a lot, then that isn’t included in Windows 7 either….
    Anyways, I’m trying to get some answers as to what included is in this case ;) Will update if I find out more.

  • http://lituuslimacon.blogspot.com _||_

    The videos themselves don’t “mean” anything per se, Windows Live Essentials is being marketed at retail, on TV and on the web as “part of the Windows 7 experience”. The key is messaging customers to believe that there is no real distinction between the two.

    However, the new Windows Live OPK (including new Movie Maker) has been pushed out to partners and OEMs to include on their Windows 7 images. They have also been advised to include a disc with Windows Live Essentials & Microsoft Security Essentials with hardware that has already been sealed for retail.

    Retail channels have also been asked to instruct customers who purchase full copies on how to install Essentials.