The China Google rift: is it good for Bing?

googlebaibai Yesterday Google dropped quite a bombshell when it announced that, because of a series of attacks on Google and other companies by hackers trying to get access to Chinese human rights activists GMail accounts, it would reconsider its “approach to China”:

These attacks and the surveillance they have uncovered–combined with the attempts over the past year to further limit free speech on the web–have led us to conclude that we should review the feasibility of our business operations in China. We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China.

What?  Google may pull out of China?  Obviously this is such a big issue with so many levels of complexity that come in to play that it is difficult to even get a handle on what’s happening.  We’ve had some initial reactions to what Google’s position might be, however, which we’ll outline quickly here:

  • Google is tired of fighting with China over censorship
  • The hacking attacks threw a scare into them
  • Google can’t grow or thrive in such market conditions
  • Google.cn is not a big business, nor is China a big market for Google
  • Google.com can still serve the China market, without the headaches

Can Google still run a successful search business in China using only Google.com and not Google.cn?  That remains a possibility, even if Google “pulls out” of China, and so the thoughts of them just giving up their market share in China may be premature.

As one tweet using the #googlecn hashtag said yesterday, “It’s not Google that’s withdrawing from China, it’s China that’s withdrawing from the world”.  The issues facing Google, while they are somewhat unique given Google’s rocky relationship with China, are not just two powerful entities bashing heads.  While Microsoft may be able to move into a space left by Google, and find it very tempting to do so, Microsoft and Bing are bound to face the same challenges faced by Google – a fierce resistance to opening up China to the connected world, and a “local first” mentality that is going to favor Baidu, the Chinese search company, no matter what happens.  Indeed, at least one search market analyst thinks most of the share potentially given up by Google would go to Baidu:

He added that much of this 30pc of the search market would most likely go to Chinese search engine Baidu, saying that this could “further cement its leadership position” with the remainder possibly not split equally among Bing and Yahoo users, thus further upsetting “the balance of power for one or the other, and means growing in the Chinese market is likely to make it very difficult for at least one of them”.

Still, Microsoft has an established presence in China, if not much search market share, is well versed in dealing with sometimes adversarial governments, and has stated a strong desire to grow its search business in China.   Getting Google out of the way, in a potentially lucrative market, might be quite helpful to Bing, but at the same time it may find that it’s China, and not Google, who is the fiercest competitor. 

Comments

  • http://menthix.net/ Menthix

    Hooray Google, doing what they should have done in the first place: Not giving in to a government which dictates them to censor and violate human rights. Hopefully other companies will follow, including Bing, which IMO shouldn’t directly look to how they can capture the market share left behind by Google, but look at what’s best for their Chinese users.

    Chinese citizens bringing flowers the Google’s Chinese HQ after the announcement is quite telling: http://webwereld.nl/thumbnails/550×393/7/b/7bc3fbf8b6cfcb93185cfe333f129914.jpg

  • http://cid-280a1538334a1cb9.profile.live.com/ Seika

    After the news cold down, activists around the world will praise Google in their fight against oppression and love them more. Activists in China… probably lost their Gmail mailbox and Google.
    But the news are cold, nobody would care unless someone brought it up again in this age of super fast information.

  • Heran

    This is a joke. Google may give up China’s market because it cannot compete with Baidu, not because it want to promote human rights or whatsoever. One may wonder why they agree to filter search results in the first place four years ago

    • http://menthix.net/ Menthix

      Doesn’t seem that way. Remember, they haven’t made a final decision to move away completely yet. What they seem to be doing for now is not applying censorship on google.cn, as someone elsewhere showed me with results of the Tiananmen Square massacre. Guess they are waiting for Chinese government to make a move now.If they wanted to leave because of competition it would have been much easier to just do so. Not to mention Google search in China is actually doing quite well and was gaining on Baidu the last year: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_gai

      But I do agree it was a bad thing of Google to comply with the Chinese filtering regulations in the first place.

      • Me

        I am pretty sure they want to leave because of competition but they want to it the most effective way. If they claim they are leaving China because of cencorship then this will improve their image and brand recognition especially in Europe. Google is under pressure in Europe from different sides, mostly because of privacy concern due to massive amount of data they are collecting.

    • michaelawyu

      Well, there’s many complex reasons for Google to leave. The censorship is just one of them. When Google came to China in 2005, the market share is around 30 percent. 5 years passed, and now it has went down to 18 percent or less. It just can not fit in! The situation in China is completely different from those in other western countries. Li Kaifu, the co-CEO of Google China once has said that he just couldn’t figure out why people still visit Baidu when the results of Google feels much better. The point is, the problem will also happen to Bing when Microsoft decided to develop its search tools in global markets. Actually, I don’t think Microsoft can fit in in a short time. Whatever, I agree with Heran – Google may be great, but after all it’s company. Promote Human rights? Funny.

  • Chris

    Good for Bing???
    More like BAIT for Bing since no one there at ms can distinguish between the 2. They will make the same money losing mistake trying to kiss the ch arse for bucks that will never produce monetary results.
    ms promises the world, but due to a lack of a cohesive company wide product business plan for their product(s) they will only be able to continue to bleed prior profit.
    China is what ms and USA should be, a cohesive proprietary society that provides for themselves first, then to the world population at large…

  • Fred A.

    I don’t see how this can be good or bad for Bing. I do however, believe that this is about more than just censorship-the way Google is making it sound.In my opinion, I think this is more about being hacked, and the perception of not being able to do anything about it. In other words, Google does not want to look underminded, or weak, and suffer the consequences of having their reputation hurt by this…Google is a company, a public one at that, so they have to do what is best for the firm and its shareholders… Eric Schmidt knows this, he has been around for a long time.How would you rather be perceived as, “weak” or “against the evil empire”?

  • Name

    Good for Bing???????? How very shortsighted. First & foremost, Google took a huge hit to its credo “Do no evil” in agreeing to bowing before the great firewall. Google has called an enormous amount of attention to this hack and security breach, and now even non-geeks associate Internet Explorer with lax security. Google was “in” China long enough with Google.CN that even if they leave, they have brand recognition and they will leave as a guerrilla hero- they will still get their share from China from their .com site, rebuild their “Do no evil” image, polish their rep with their customers as the defender of security and freedom, and paint MS and China with one broad brush as the evil empire duopoly. Not bad, given that Baidu will always lead in the official tallies there- they are a state supported enterprise.

    • Damaster – LiveSide.net

      @Name re:”they will still get their share from China from their .com site”

      One thing I’d like to point out is that once Google’s relationship with China breaks down, it’s very probable that Google will simply be blocked by the GFW, regardless of whether it’s Google.cn or Google.com. Currently, YouTube, Facebook and Twitter are all blocked in China, adding Google to the list ain’t that hard.