LiveSide gets a new logo (just in time for Wave 4!)

Seems like everyone and his sister had big announcements today, and right here in the middle of it all we decided to go ahead and unveil our new logo:

LiveSideWhBG

We really want to thank all of you for taking the time to vote and comment, we had a lot of fun with it, and want to thank Dana and Tony at idesignyourlogo.com once again for being such good sports.  We’re really impressed with their work, and if you need a logo, there’s only one place to go, in our opinion.

You might have noticed that we did a bit of straightening up around here, too.  We changed our font family to Segoe UI, Arial, sans serif, and tweaked the header a bit to make the new logo feel right at home.

But enough about us.  We want to hear what you think of Office Web Apps, Web Messenger, and all the new stuff on home.live.com, and for you to keep your eyes peeled for Wave 4 Hotmail sightings.  We’ve been waiting a looonnnng time for this, can’t wait to get our hands on the new Wave 4 bits!

Comments

  • http://revanmj.pl/ Michał Jakubowski

    It seems that your new logo is too big :P

    http://bit.ly/bWzigu

    • http://www.LiveSide.net Kip Kniskern – LiveSide.net

      You still have the old CSS file applied with the new logo, for some reason. Try refreshing the page :)

      • http://revanmj.pl/ Michał Jakubowski

        Oops, forgot to do it. After that it fits well ;)

  • bernard

    Congrats! I would recommend Calibri for body text and Segoe for headers/etc.

  • http://mjflynt.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey

    This is probably not what people would expect, but I really dislike the new security and privacy settings. I wish could have retained the original settings that used categories for many of us that know how to use it rather than strip it down to almost no real control. Each setting should have the option of custom settings. I now have settings that I can’t even tell how they are set. My only options are to leave as is or to “reset” them which will put in the watered down settings. There is a big different between sharing with everyone, almost everyone, friends, etc., and things like family or colleagues which can be set up in categories. Is categories only exist so we can appear offline to certain groups now? That’s just lame! Facebook has greatly improved in this area. It’s a shame MS had to take one giant leap backwards. Two thumbs down in just this privacy area. The jury is out on the rest.

    • ted

      I have to agree with your there. Love the new features and look, but the privacy took a step backward. Dont get me wrong, I think the privacy settings were a little messy and gave far to many options, but changing it to only three different settings that offer hardly any control is a step backward indeed.

    • http://www.LiveSide.net Kip Kniskern – LiveSide.net

      Did you try the “Advanced” option (at the bottom)? That is supposed to allow you to have more granular control. Would be very interested in hearing your concerns if indeed the advanced settings don’t do it for you

      • http://mjflynt.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey

        Yeah, “Advanced” is specifically what I don’t like. I’m not talking about the privacy profiles of Public, Limited and Private. I’m talking about the “advanced” settings of “Just me”, “Some friends”, “Friends”, “My friends and their friends”, and “Everyone.” If I can set “Some friends” and be different friends for each case on a case by case basis then awesome. If I can only do it once for every case then it’s of limited use. It used to be that I could allow only “family” members leave and see notes on my profile for example. How do you do that now? Perhaps there will be a way with this limited friend setting, but Contacts haven’t upgraded yet. I can’t see what we can do there in the new Contacts till it arrives, and when I go into the old contacts and click on a category like “family” I get a message “Windows Live Hotmail wasn’t able to complete this request. Microsoft may contact you about any issues you report.” So if this is all there is with the new privacy settings then I’m not impressed. To be fair though, stuff on Skydrive still does allow you to use categories for sharing. This is not obvious as it was before, and that’s an oversite. It’s the same with Web Activities. I used to be able to share twitter, for example, with a small select group of other twittering friends so as to not flood the What’s new feed with my one sided conversations. People completely turned off ALL my updates when I shared these with everyone until I resorted to this. We have lost a lot of control with these new settings. The odd thing is that Facebook added these same privacy features in the second to last privacy update. You can post a link or share something and target it to a complely user defined audience even better than Windows Live ever could by including individual and groups as well as excluding groups and individuals. This limited friend thing might be the first attempt at an exclude – I’m not sure. So far, it appears to be just a group of friends that I haven’t limited in some way. Anyway, the most recent privacy update of Facebook just put the simple privacy profiles on top of the more complex settings to set them for you. You still have all the old settings, and I was hoping this would be the case with Windows Live. But alas, it appears not, and that they have gone backwards. For example, in Facebook you can still go back in and tweek things like who can post to your wall with infinite precision using the “customize settings” link. In Windows Live, you can share with as many as “Everyone” or as few as “Just me” in some cases but you can’t (it seems) share with just your “family” category. Then at another time share with “colleagues” etc.

  • Tedjom

    Wow! The internet is exploding with goodness today, I love it. I think the new Liveside is super sexy and I am glad the entire place was refreshed. Still waiting for the new favicon though ;)

    Oh and also, Wave 4 rocks. That is all.

  • JohnCz

    Overall really nice but I am seeing some things that I hope are fixed in the near term. Here are several…
    - In the main menu, Hotmail shows # of unread messages, it updates fairly slowly causing the menu to shift…it a jarring to constantly see this as you really get into Windows Live.
    - Creating a online document using the main menu works but you can’t move that file to any folder afterwords. I think the move/copy menu items are disabled for “root” level items…so I’m hoping this is just a permissions problem. Also, if I goto a folder and use the Office menu at the top to select document type, it should create the file in that folder.
    - You cannot mark multiple files for deletion in a SkyDrive/Office/Photos folder.
    - I might be jumping the gun here, but I uploaded a short WMV file and was hoping to embed that into a blog post on Spaces. Sofar no luck with that.
    … still experimenting

  • http://wordzoo.spaces.live.com/default.aspx Happy Flower

    Jeff and others, so agree, the sharing/privacy is a forced choice of Yes, a little yes and no and no fine tuning. We did this in Wave 3 didn’t we? The whole making everyone’s network public. I’m ggrrhhh…

  • http://www.contino.com/ Andrea Contino

    Hey Kip, do you have in plan to send some stickers as per the past logo? :-)

  • Matt

    Shame about the excessive numbers of advertisements… Can barely see the content with all the flashy crappy ads.

  • http://twitter.com/idesignyourlogo I Design Your Logo

    I’d like to say thank you to Kip and all of the LiveSide.net readers for making this such a great project to work on. It was a joy to get everyone’s feedback and develop a design that worked for both Kip and all of you. Thanks again for such a great experience.

    • Chris

      Great job on the logo!

      • http://twitter.com/idesignyourlogo I Design Your Logo

        Thanks Chris.

  • Chris

    The new logo looks great. Fits right in with Windows Live and Bing!

    now time to update the facebook page.

    • http://www.LiveSide.net Kip Kniskern – LiveSide.net

      Thanks for the reminder! We wanted to get the logo project out there so we could concentrate on Wave 4, but there are a few loose ends to clean up. And yes we’re looking at new stickers, stay tuned!

      • Chris

        Kip, something just came to me. On the comments sidebar, is there a way that you could have friendly URLS (I think that’s what its called) instead of the whole link?

        • http://www.LiveSide.net Kip Kniskern – LiveSide.net

          The comments sidebar is generated by Disqus, we don’t have that level of control over it (wish we did). I’ve added it as a feature request in the past, another good reminder to check back on it. All in all we’re very happy with Disqus, hope you are too! (great to be getting so many comments, the vast majority of which are really adding to the conversation – thanks all and keep it up!)

  • http://www.bing.com/community/ Kristin Meldahl

    Good seeing you @SMX. I am digging the new logo!