Windows 8 Explorer to have built-in Windows Live Mesh and SkyDrive Wave 5 integration?

By damaster | Posted April 2, 2011 52 comments

Recently, our friends Rafael Rivera and Paul Thurrott have been hard at work bringing us secrets from the early pre-beta builds of Windows 8, believed to have been released to a handful of OEMs and partners on Microsoft Connect just last week. Today they brought us early screenshots of Windows Explorer in Windows 8, in particular the new “ribbon” interface that had been implemented in most Windows Live Essentials applications:

Windows 8 Explorer - Sync and Sharing

While still in its infancy stage (with most icons being the orange circular placeholders), our friend Long Zheng spotted something quite interesting – there is now a “Sync” and “Web sharing” menu options within Windows Explorer (circled red above), built right into the Windows 8 operating system.

We reported earlier that Windows 8 will have Windows Live ID built-in, and seeing these new “Sync” and “Web sharing” options in Explorer definitely leads us to think that this is somewhat related to Windows Live Mesh (for sync) and Windows Live SkyDrive (for web sharing). With the Windows Live team falling under the “Windows and Windows Live Division”, there definitely seems to be some sort of convergence between the two in their next releases.

On the topic of SkyDrive, we hear that Wave 5 will have an overhaul of its web interface, making it easier for users to manage and search for files and folders stored in the cloud. Of course, as always stay tuned at LiveSide as we bring you the latest news in relation to Windows Live Wave 5!

Posted April 2nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
  • Chris

    If this is true it would be a huge welcome. JUst as long as the UI accross the board are simple and easy (that includes the web interface)

    I’m actully wondering if there will be mess/skydrive for android and iphone owners? Microsoft HAS to relize that not everyone is gonna own a windows phone 7 device. They do not need to be like apple and limit their services to their own devices.

  • Chris

    If this is true it would be a huge welcome. JUst as long as the UI accross the board are simple and easy (that includes the web interface)

    I’m actully wondering if there will be mess/skydrive for android and iphone owners? Microsoft HAS to relize that not everyone is gonna own a windows phone 7 device. They do not need to be like apple and limit their services to their own devices.

  • Munni Badnaam

    “I’m actully wondering if there will be mess/skydrive for android and iphone owners? Microsoft HAS to relize that not everyone is gonna own a windows phone 7 device. They do not need to be like apple and limit their services to their own devices. ”

    Actually, Apple has no reason to limit their services to their own devices, since they charge for the services. Microsoft doesn’t.

    • Chris

      and? Your point?

    • http://reinnovate.asia Kit Yeung

      Contradict to your comment Microsoft is actually providing official Windows Live Messenger App and Bing app to iPhone users and ask Miyowa to make one WLM for WP7…

      Which is a very crappy product and the same thing goes with Facebook app.

  • Munni Badnaam

    “I’m actully wondering if there will be mess/skydrive for android and iphone owners? Microsoft HAS to relize that not everyone is gonna own a windows phone 7 device. They do not need to be like apple and limit their services to their own devices. ”

    Actually, Apple has no reason to limit their services to their own devices, since they charge for the services. Microsoft doesn’t.

    • Chris

      and? Your point?

    • Kit Y

      Contradict to your comment Microsoft is actually providing official Windows Live Messenger App and Bing app to iPhone users and ask Miyowa to make one WLM for WP7…

      Which is a very crappy product and the same thing goes with Facebook app.

  • http://www.webguide4u.com Vivek Parmar

    Wow that’s a huge plus point. Just switched to windows and have to say i’m loving it

    • Chris

      BA BA BA BA BA,

  • http://www.webguide4u.com Vivek Parmar

    Wow that’s a huge plus point. Just switched to windows and have to say i’m loving it

    • Chris

      BA BA BA BA BA,

  • Anonymous

    Personally I am always disappointed by Microsoft’s reluctance to implement this sort of thing as standard, IF they go this route for Windows 8* I’ll be buying at least three copies on day one. It’s satisfying to see them get something right for a change.

    (*= it seems entirely counter to Windows 7′s policy of removing everything, e.g. mail, but hopefully it’s just a result of their antitrust supervision ending recently)

    P.S. One question though- will Ribbon UI and Metro UI on one system make sense to a lot of people?

    • http://twitter.com/JasonBailey JasonBailey

      Ribbon UI and Metro UI can run in tandem. Ribbon is a menuing interface where Metro is an overall look and feel for the OS. They are not mutually exclusive.

      • Damaster – LiveSide.net

        Yes that’s my thoughts too. In fact the recently leaked screenshots of Outlook in Office 15 has both elements of ribbon and metro. The trick is to make them blend nicely together in a functional way. :)

      • Jason

        Luckily the ribbon UI is collapsable because it takes up a lot of real estate. I personally would have preferred a metro UI for the explorer… but this is welcome too :)

    • Mario Albertico

      As the rest of Windows goes through a UI overhaul in order to make it cloud-friendly, Internet Explorer will become the most visually-differentiated Windows component with its much simplified UI (if they keep changes from IE9). So while Windows Explorer and friends get a mix of the Ribbon and Metro, IE will be singled out and it will be interesting to see how Microsoft defends the Windows + IE co-dependancy with two radically looking experiences.

  • northerngeek

    Personally I am always disappointed by Microsoft’s reluctance to implement this sort of thing as standard, IF they go this route for Windows 8* I’ll be buying at least three copies on day one. It’s satisfying to see them get something right for a change.

    (*= it seems entirely counter to Windows 7′s policy of removing everything, e.g. mail, but hopefully it’s just a result of their antitrust supervision ending recently)

    P.S. One question though- will Ribbon UI and Metro UI on one system make sense to a lot of people?

    • http://twitter.com/JasonBailey JasonBailey

      Ribbon UI and Metro UI can run in tandem. Ribbon is a menuing interface where Metro is an overall look and feel for the OS. They are not mutually exclusive.

      • damaster

        Yes that’s my thoughts too. In fact the recently leaked screenshots of Outlook in Office 15 has both elements of ribbon and metro. The trick is to make them blend nicely together in a functional way. :)

      • Jason

        Luckily the ribbon UI is collapsable because it takes up a lot of real estate. I personally would have preferred a metro UI for the explorer… but this is welcome too :)

    • Mario Albertico

      As the rest of Windows goes through a UI overhaul in order to make it cloud-friendly, Internet Explorer will become the most visually-differentiated Windows component with its much simplified UI (if they keep changes from IE9). So while Windows Explorer and friends get a mix of the Ribbon and Metro, IE will be singled out and it will be interesting to see how Microsoft defends the Windows + IE co-dependancy with two radically looking experiences.

  • Mario Albertico

    Very exciting stuff, I just hope they don’t have to deal with legal hurtles with this level of “built-in” functionality. As for the Wave 5 header, I would just want a menu that doesn’t bounce back and forth and slows down the page; I’ve seen friends’ Gmail header and it looks so simple yet fast-loading and “just there.”

    • Chris

      agreed. I really wish the EU will just take a hike off a long bridge.

  • Mario Albertico

    Very exciting stuff, I just hope they don’t have to deal with legal hurtles with this level of “built-in” functionality. As for the Wave 5 header, I would just want a menu that doesn’t bounce back and forth and slows down the page; I’ve seen friends’ Gmail header and it looks so simple yet fast-loading and “just there.”

    • Chris

      agreed. I really wish the EU will just take a hike off a long bridge.

  • http://www.ratdiary.com spragued

    Nice features, but they will show up late. What is the timing on Windows 8 1Q’12? Mesh and Skydrive integration should have been in Win 7 SP1 in order to capitalize on already tested and released products. Microsoft has to be more nimble in an environment that is challenging their ecosystem so rapidly.

    • Chris

      maybe there will be a little something early. But then again we are still in the early stages of cloud storage. by 2012, 2013 things may start to become mainstream.

  • http://www.ratdiary.com/ spragued

    Nice features, but they will show up late. What is the timing on Windows 8 1Q’12? Mesh and Skydrive integration should have been in Win 7 SP1 in order to capitalize on already tested and released products. Microsoft has to be more nimble in an environment that is challenging their ecosystem so rapidly.

    • Chris

      maybe there will be a little something early. But then again we are still in the early stages of cloud storage. by 2012, 2013 things may start to become mainstream.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lorenzoarredondo Lorenzo Arredondo

    If the Windows and Windows Live team read this I sure hope they add mroe SkyDrive storage, even if at a charge, I hope they merge Windows Live Mesh storage and SkyDrive storage (my head’s spinning from where my files are because the ecosystem is so fragmented. Finally, I hope XP gets some love, but I doubt it’ll happen. My workplace just refuses to upgrade.

    • Kanelp

      MS has already shown that XP is not something they want to support with these new tools. IE9, Live Wave 4 only support Vista and 7 today. I think we can plan on that for the future as well.

    • Chris

      You do relize that this October will mark the 10 years since XP first came out? Its like wanting to Microsoft to support windows 98 back in 2008.

  • http://www.slythefox.com/ LorenzoA

    If the Windows and Windows Live team read this I sure hope they add mroe SkyDrive storage, even if at a charge, I hope they merge Windows Live Mesh storage and SkyDrive storage (my head’s spinning from where my files are because the ecosystem is so fragmented. Finally, I hope XP gets some love, but I doubt it’ll happen. My workplace just refuses to upgrade.

    • Kanelp

      MS has already shown that XP is not something they want to support with these new tools. IE9, Live Wave 4 only support Vista and 7 today. I think we can plan on that for the future as well.

    • Chris

      You do relize that this October will mark the 10 years since XP first came out? Its like wanting to Microsoft to support windows 98 back in 2008.

  • Simon Tang

    I feel like the Ribbon interface (actually the Microsoft Office Fluent User Interface, I think) is better for software interfaces where someone is making or creating some sort of document or publication, but not for certain tasks such as browsing file directories, or accessing the registry, for example.

  • Simon Tang

    I feel like the Ribbon interface (actually the Microsoft Office Fluent User Interface, I think) is better for software interfaces where someone is making or creating some sort of document or publication, but not for certain tasks such as browsing file directories, or accessing the registry, for example.

  • Geoff Coupe

    Converting to the Ribbon religion is one thing – actually making it useful is another matter entirely. Case in point: Wave 4 of Windows Live Photo Gallery with the Ribbon interface is less efficient than Wave 3 in editing photos.

    • Mike Lowrey

      Sometimes it’s better to have some less efficient tools but overall a consistent user interface than having a bunch of specialized UIs which lead to overhead managing the different ideologies behind them…
      The overall efficiency is the key value

  • http://gcoupe.wordpress.com/ Geoff Coupe

    Converting to the Ribbon religion is one thing – actually making it useful is another matter entirely. Case in point: Wave 4 of Windows Live Photo Gallery with the Ribbon interface is less efficient than Wave 3 in editing photos.

    • Mike Lowrey

      Sometimes it’s better to have some less efficient tools but overall a consistent user interface than having a bunch of specialized UIs which lead to overhead managing the different ideologies behind them…
      The overall efficiency is the key value

  • frankwick

    What’s the latest on Live Essentials Wave 5? Any rumored release dates? Features? Etc… Wave 4 is really good but there are MANY areas for improvements. Part of the logic in unbundling these services from Windows was so that they could release more frequent updates. Not seeing this effect yet.

  • frankwick

    What’s the latest on Live Essentials Wave 5? Any rumored release dates? Features? Etc… Wave 4 is really good but there are MANY areas for improvements. Part of the logic in unbundling these services from Windows was so that they could release more frequent updates. Not seeing this effect yet.

  • http://w1ngnut.myopenid.com/ w1ngnut

    I don’t mind having ribbon everywhere as long as they are smaller in height and integrate to current theme. Currently neither Office (2007, don’t know 2010) nor Live Essentials integrate correctly. So I have a Black Word, Blue Live Mail and dark Win 7 theme.. Afff

  • http://w1ngnut.myopenid.com/ w1ngnut

    I don’t mind having ribbon everywhere as long as they are smaller in height and integrate to current theme. Currently neither Office (2007, don’t know 2010) nor Live Essentials integrate correctly. So I have a Black Word, Blue Live Mail and dark Win 7 theme.. Afff

  • dman

    DROP BOX is going to have something to say about this and competitive behaviour .

    • Anonymous

      They could just let other services integrate in the “share” or “upload” menu, as in windows phone 7 pictures hub.

  • dman

    DROP BOX is going to have something to say about this and competitive behaviour .

    • 0110110101100100

      They could just let other services integrate in the “share” or “upload” menu, as in windows phone 7 pictures hub.

  • Chris

    Not really skydrive or windows 8 related but I I hope wave 5 will bring more uniflying pages. I was about to download the office 2010 trial. I just changed my password and I forgot it, so I have to reset it. Appon resetting it I got redirected to an old MSN member services page with the old msn logo and page design from like 6-7 years ago. (the one thats displayed in a Manila like folder design with the tab shape around the title and msn logo. The resetting the password brings be to a Windows live wave 1 mixed with wave 2 design.)

    Not to menton the log in screens are the old ones, not the full screen log in.s

  • Chris

    Not really skydrive or windows 8 related but I I hope wave 5 will bring more uniflying pages. I was about to download the office 2010 trial. I just changed my password and I forgot it, so I have to reset it. Appon resetting it I got redirected to an old MSN member services page with the old msn logo and page design from like 6-7 years ago. (the one thats displayed in a Manila like folder design with the tab shape around the title and msn logo. The resetting the password brings be to a Windows live wave 1 mixed with wave 2 design.)

    Not to menton the log in screens are the old ones, not the full screen log in.s