Sign-In changed, one account only!

Last week the sign-in page for Hotmail (and other sign-in pages that use Windows Live ID) has changed from multiple user tiles to one account…image
Why? That’s a good question. According to Eric Doerr there were some problems with the old design:

  • Customer confusion: We got consistent reports from customers who were confused by the design. Not understanding which checkbox did what and as a result accidentally leaving account tiles at an internet cafe or a friend’s house were common complaints. Depending on your settings, sometimes you were signed in but still had to click the tile, sign-out didn’t always work as expected, sometimes you had to enter a password and sometimes not – it seemed random and confusing. To make matters worse, tiles only worked on Internet Explorer; other browsers always had the simpler experience.
  • Changing trends in device ownership: As more people bought laptops and smartphones (which tend to be used by just one person), we heard more feedback that the tiles just got in the way, and what people really wanted to do was to just get to the service without interruption. We knew from our telemetry that fewer than 2% of users were using the tiles, but 100% of our users were interrupted by them in the old design.
  • Consolidation on a primary account: Increasingly, customers are consolidating their Windows Live usage into one primary account. It used to be common for one person to have multiple accounts. As we’ve integrated Windows Live ID across other products like Xbox, Windows Phone, SkyDrive, and Office –the core account has become more valuable, and it’s become less necessary to switch between accounts.

So considering they added features to Hotmail that solve scenarios that previously required juggling multiple accounts, such as adding other email accounts and creating aliases, they felt it was time to change the sign-in. Now the whole thing is focused one one account per device.

In his blog post Eric gives tells us how we can best set up things in the new design. Going from resetting your password (if you forgot, which is understandable if you keep signed in all the time not having to re-type) to how to manage multiple accounts. There he tells about adding email accounts and creating aliases but forgot one other solution: linked IDs, that way you sign in with one account and move to the next from the dropdown (your name). That is limited to just 4 IDs, but hey…one can get creative with that….let’s hope that feature will stay! I for one make use of that one heavily.

Comments

  • http://twitter.com/jamiet Jamie Thomson

    Yeah, I’ confused why he didn’t mention linked Live IDs – oe of the ebst features of WL in my opinion. Is it possible even their own employees don’t know about it?

  • Sunshine – LiveSide.net

    Maybe they forgot because they are adding so much lately, who knows. It makes reading mail for different Windows Live IDs so much easier when on the go, you only need to remember the pw for 1 account! I use Windows Live Mail on my desktop, but during weekends (or when travelling) I use my netbook to quickly check my mail…on that one I only install the most basic, needed stuff, so no email client on there filling up the hdd!

  • http://twitter.com/surilamin surilamin

    I think this change is for the better, glad they’re starting to implement a lot of small changes instead of waiting to make a massive amount of changes at an arbitrary date.

  • Chris

    Will this make it so when I click “log out” it actully logs me out not “you are still sign in elsewhere. We are lazy asses. Go log out your self” ?

    • http://cid-280a1538334a1cb9.profile.live.com/ Seika

      Not sure which, but the only time I had that is when I’m logged in to other sites using Live ID.
      Which is typically how it works if logged in to websites through tokens like Twitter OAuth or OpenID. Logging out from the provider doesn’t automatically means logging out from the services that uses it (as if they only check the validity for the first time and don’t care as long as you don’t get out of their place).
      Facebook Connect is different though

  • http://doctorwhofan98.wordpress.com/ doctorwhofan98

    We should be able to merge accounts…

    • http://josedmorales.net Josè Daniel

      I completely agree with this! Linked IDs are great but image if you could actually merge different Windows Live IDs … that’d be amazing!!!

      • http://doctorwhofan98.wordpress.com/ doctorwhofan98

        It would be. And it would be great if you could sign in to the new, IDs merged, account with any of the email address attached to it (as in aliases etc.)

  • Anonymous

    This is kind of off the topic but has a little to do with it. When the Liveside.net site was revamped, how come the Windows Live Login ID was never returned? Now when I click to post, there are many login id providers such as Facebook, Twitter, Disqus, Open Id, and Yahoo. Google is even included, though this is a site that is suppose to be geared toward Microsoft services and products.

    • http://www.LiveSide.net Kip Kniskern – LiveSide.net

      This is a decision by Disqus, the service we use to manage comments, not LiveSide.  We’ve asked them in the past about adding Windows Live IDs as log ins, and this is a good reminder to ask them again.  They have recently added Google as a log in, and we have no idea why Live ID hasn’t been added, too.

      • Anonymous

        Thanks Kip…How dare them leave our login in out…lol.

  • Marianne

    I have recently experienced the most frustrating thing with hotmail. !. You can’t get a hold of anyone.
    They have a ridiculous series of things to go through to validate your account. If it’s safe than why is it so difficult to get through.2. They closed my account because, “their reason, unusual activity”, what does that mean exactly! I have tried to reset my password and what I get is “account closed”  I again have to go through a series of questions to find out after 3-4 tries that they are not accepting anymore inquiries try back in 24 hours. Than I go through the whole thing again and again for 4 days in a row. before I finally get through. To than find I have to go through another series of questions, to verify who I am. Than they will send me an email into an account I can’t get into because they closed it.
    I have been working out of town for a week and will be doing so for 6 more weeks, all my contacts are in my hotmail account, while I am waiting for them to “decide” whether I am who I say I am. So now I have to check this ridiculous forum from hotmail to see whether or not I am eligible to have my hotmail account open again. Marianne

  • http://cid-280a1538334a1cb9.profile.live.com/ Seika

    The “Remember my e-mail address (only)” option has also been long gone in the desktop version.
    Kind of annoying that the option become limited to either saving both name and /password/ or none at all

  • Microsoftsucks333558

    I hate Microsoft for taking away my multiple sign-in page..
    AND! this isn’t just about multiple sign in, even a single person per device now has to click “remember password” in order to not have to type in an e-mail address.  If you don’t want remember password you’re stuck with re-typing your e-mail address everytime.  I’m getting rid of my xbox, windows 7 pc, piece of crap hotmail and switching all to apple & playstation

  • Jim

    I hate the new sign in like the guy above, I don’t want it to remember my password but i also don’t want to type my email every god damn time.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/CW3SETFCKRB5NRLX5QZK3EMRWY Joe

    I  am on my family computer at home where my wife has a hotmail account and my daughterr who uses the computer when she comes here  from her home in another city uses it.  I would very prefer to have the old login page with three accounts showing and passwords stored to having to type in my email address and password.  I was aggravated when attyahoo did that switch and  notice that when I sign in to yahoo as opposed to attyahoo that they have not made the change.  I would say that this is from my POVNOT a welcome chan ge and wish that it was possible to revert or return to the old way.

  • Ken

    there has got to be a way to have it both ways, I just started using live mail yesterday and will stop today. I need multiple accounts and need them separated. The same is true with the other family members that use this computer. To put all our emails in one pot is the most disorganized way to handle it. I guess some software engineer needed to justify his paycheck and came up with this incomplete idea. email worked better before all this made up need for consolidation that is being forced on us
    I guess I will be hunting an email service that suits my needs, BTW, loved outlook express but was problematic with crashes, always had leave a copy on server checked so I could get mail anywhere….. maybe Thunderbird is my answer

    • http://www.LiveSide.net Kip Kniskern – LiveSide.net

      I think you can do exactly what you want using Hotmail and Live ID:  For each user, choose a main account, and then Link your other Hotmail accounts to it: https://account.live.com/ManageLinks.aspx?ru=http://home.live.com/options/

      Then, for each user, create a separate Windows login.  So then you would log in to your user on the computer, fire up Hotmail, check your mail (by clicking on the user name at the top right you can switch between email accounts, they’re not “all emails in one pot”).  Of course you can also use Windows Live Mail (part of Windows Live Essentials), which succeeded Outlook Express, which will open all of your email in one place, but again, separated by account.

      By setting up your computer with a Windows account for each user, you also get the benefits of being able to customize your desktop (different background pictures, etc).  About the only thing you can’t do is change the screen resolution, that is the same for all accounts.

      Really, once you get things set up, it’s pretty well organized and customizable.

  • http://doctorwhofan98.wordpress.com/ doctorwhofan98

    I think Linked IDs are staying down… :-(