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Windows Live Wave 5 currently in Milestone 2 stage; to be tightly integrated with Windows 8

By on July 9, 2011 9:02 AM
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Windows 8If you had been closely following LiveSide’s Wave 5 and Windows 8 coverage, this is probably not something new to you, but rather an update on Microsoft’s current progress with Windows Live. WinBeta.com today reported a status update on the development of Windows 8 (currently at build 8042), as well as some information about the upcoming Windows Live Wave 5 and its relationship with Windows 8:

About a year ago, Windows Live became a part of the larger Windows organization. This union reflects the online and cloud nature of Windows 8. A ton of new *.live.com services are being worked on and will be tightly integrated with Windows 8. At the moment, Windows 8 and Windows Live are not synchronized in terms of development. Windows Live is currently in a Milestone 2 coding phase, with Milestone 1 bits currently being deployed into Windows 8. Don’t expect Microsoft to re-invent the wheel when it comes to this, as the company is simply leveraging the codebase of Windows Live to make things work in Windows 8. We can safely assume that we can hear more about Windows 8′s cloud features during the Worldwide Partner Conference next week as well as during the BUILD conference.

Indeed, LiveSide can independently confirm that the next version of Windows Live is currently in Milestone 2 stage of development (with build numbers starting with 16.2.xxxx). If you check the version numbers for the latest Hotmail and SkyDrive updates, you’d notice that it is currently at the “M0” stage (with build numbers starting with 16.0.xxxx).

Based on leaked builds of early versions of Windows 8, we’ve known for quite a while that Windows Live and Windows 8 will be integrated tightly, particularly in the areas of cloud syncing and cloud storage through the use of Windows Live ID (i.e. integration of Windows Live Mesh and SkyDrive’s capabilities). In addition, from the demo of Windows 8 at the D9 conference, we’ve also seen the “Live Tiles” for a built-in Messenger Social and a Messaging hub, potentially housing a possible unified communication service (i.e. the integration of Windows Live Messenger). And we’ve yet to see how the rest of the Windows Live Essentials suite will fit into Windows 8. From WinBeta.com’s post above, it also seems like more Windows Live web services may be coming. It’ll certainly be interesting to see what Microsoft has in store for the future of Windows Live. Stay tuned!

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  • http://twitter.com/TechDudeGeorge George S

    No leak so far then, didn’t we last year have a M1 build leak by now?

  • http://thelonghornblog.blogspot.com/ Angel of Despair

    Builds are coming as Web-Installers, that working only inside MS development network, that’s why there is no leak yet.

  • Chris

    Good. This is the way it should be. The EU can stick it where the sun don’t shine. They need to worry about the EU not what is going on in the US. (its why no one really gives a damn about William and kate outside of england. ) 

    • Anonymous

      Eh?!

      • Chris

        its the truth

        • http://twitter.com/alexwilks88 Alex Wilks

          It’s a bit of a bizarre way to trail off a rant o_O I think the point you’re trying to make though is that the supposed anti-competitive laws that scared Microsoft into unbundling WL from Windows are stupid and that they should go full steam ahead with tying the services into the OS again, right?

          • Chris

            Exactly. The eU needs to understand that people are not dumb. Most will know that there is other offering and they can use them if they so choose to. Those who don’t. oh well. LEt them use what they know. 

          • Damaster – LiveSide.net

            Wasn’t it the US antitrust laws that stopped Microsoft from bundling softwares within Windows?

            EU was more to do with the bundling of Internet Explorer, and I think Korea was the one that ordered Windows Media Player to be unbundled.

            Regardless, I agree it’s pointless. I don’t see Apple forced to unbundle Safari and iTunes from their Mac OS.

          • http://twitter.com/TechDudeGeorge George S

            This, I find it fanboyism or whatever that Windows has to offer a WMP/WMC free build and nearly had to offer a browser-free version when Mac OS X can freely ship with Safari and iTunes

  • Revolutions

    I just want to some Mesh news.

  • Mario Albertico

    This reminds me of how I would wonder what people with multiple Windows Live IDs would do if one WL ID is linked per Windows account. I guess it makes sense that they got rid of the multiple WL ID sign page and are suggesting each person get their own Windows account. Maybe they should have a way we can consolidate our accounts better…turning actual IDs into aliases or sub-accounts.

    • Damaster – LiveSide.net

      Yep the recent Windows Live ID change seems to be an attempt to pave the way for Windows 8.
      In fact, even looking at Windows Phone Mango, having multiple WLIDs for one person will definitely cause issues (if you have a dummy WLID for your marketplace/Xbox LIVE/Zune that is different from your WLID for Hotmail/Calendar/Contacts, you’ll have issues with Messenger integration since it only supports the “primary” WLID set up on the phone.) WP7 works best and is designed for one primary WLID only, but of course do allow for additional WLIDs – mainly for multiple inboxes.

      I agree there should definitely be a way to consolidate accounts if this one WLID per person thing (plus aliases) is the way to go.

      • cuz84d

        Google integrated apps + Android have this same problem.  Ie if you create a new account for your android phone but you don’t use this for your Gmail, you wont be able to log into Gtalk under your Gmail account, only the one you created on the phone.  Real dumb.. since it locks you out.

  • http://twitter.com/contextfree contextfree

    I’m pretty sure Windows Live has been part of the larger Windows organization for quite a bit longer than a year now?

    • http://www.LiveSide.net Kip Kniskern – LiveSide.net

      Yes, as a matter of fact, almost exactly 3 years ago.  We reported on the Platform and Services Division split on July 24, 2008: http://www.liveside.net/2008/07/24/microsoft-announces-reorganization-platforms-amp-services-devision-will-be-split-up/

    • cuz84d

      I full believe that once I seen the WL profile image on Windows 8 leaks and start screen, showing up that it basically looks like they would tie the OS+cloud services together via the same login to make it integrated, but I hope I would not have to do that.  I already had a live id but I started getting tons of spam so I killed it which removed it for Zune, WL, WLMessenger and anything else using that account.

      • Damaster – LiveSide.net

        I’m sure there’ll still be your non-WLID accounts – think about all those corporate customers who will use Windows 8, where accounts are managed on the corporate domain level.

        Quite sure they won’t be relying solely on WLID as the user login.

        • Chris

          I think in order to use the cloud based services in Windows 8 you wopuld want to use your Windows Live ID to take full advantage of the services 

          • Damaster – LiveSide.net

            For consumers, yes. For businesses, no. I think businesses would rather take care of authentication themselves (via MS’s Active Directory or equivalent). Even with cloud computing businesses will not want to use Windows Live, but rather use their self-administered cloud infrastructure and services.

      • http://twitter.com/alexwilks88 Alex Wilks

        Of course, you don’t have to use your WL id for email at all…it’s perfectly fine to have one just for Zune, XBL, Windows etc whilst using Gmail or something else for your PIM :)

  • Anonymous

    Windows 8 is suit for my computer ,it is useful.

  • Ishaan Santlal

    beautiful, waiting patiently

  • markiz

    i hope w8 beta is fully functional when it inevitably leaks. Not that i’m eager to get away from w7, as it’s really great, i just love metro UX.

     i also hope they integrate skype in wave5.

  • http://www.arbico.co.uk kallymoral

    excited for windows 8 with msn more features than previous versions….

  • Anonymous

    Yes ,I slso think so.

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