More Windows Phone 8 details leaked – Nokia 3D maps, Skype, Wallet, and more

By damaster | Posted June 12, 2012 60 comments

Windows PhoneToday Apple announced their upcoming upgrade to their mobile operating system, iOS 6, during their annual WWDC event. With it comes several new features including 3D maps, turn by turn navigation, Facebook integration, Passbook, iCloud tabs, and more. However, whilst the spotlight had been on iOS today, our friends over at WPCentral had posted an interesting article revealing some details about Microsoft’s upcoming mobile operating system – Windows Phone 8.

Without going into too much details of the post, we have summarised the key points below:

  • Nokia Maps with 3D navigation – WPCentral claims that Nokia Maps will replace Bing Maps entirely, and will feature 3D navigation and hardware acceleration. According to the website, this will be available across all Windows Phone devices rather than limited to just Nokia devices.
  • Integrated Skype – This was long rumored before, but we will finally see Microsoft’s recently-acquired Skype built right into the Windows Phone 8 OS. WPCentral claims that Skype will be integrated with your contacts in the People hub, and available not just for instant messaging but also Voice-Over-IP chats. It is said that Skype for Windows Phone 8 will behave like a regular phone call, and will be “completely seamless”.
  • VOIP integration – According to WPCentral, Microsoft will also be allowing other VOIP providers to “patch into” the Windows Phone 8 OS just like Skype, making other VOIP services just as seamless.
  • Windows Phone Wallet – This was also rumored previously, where the Windows Phone 8 OS will take advantage of new NFC-capable phones to provide contactless payments.
  • Voice tools – WPCentral didn’t go into details, but made comparison with Apple’s Siri service. WMPU mentioned that Windows Phone 8 will feature Voice search that integrates results from IMDB, Yelp, Rotten Tomatoes, OpenTable and the more.
  • Lens apps – Also rumored before, WPCentral says that Windows Phone 8 will provide some creative tools for developers to make good use of the phone’s camera. An example given previously was an app that combines burst mode with smile detection to capture a perfect portrait shot.
  • Native code development – Also revealed previously, WPCentral mentioned again that native code development will be coming, enabling more powerful applications and making it easier for developers to port apps from iOS or Android.

With the Windows Phone Summit coming next week, we’ll sure be hearing a lot more news about Windows Phone 8. What are some of your most anticipated features of Windows Phone 8? Let us know in the comments below!

Posted June 12th, 2012 at 5:34 am
  • http://www.facebook.com/robinvanveghel Robin van Veghel

    Still waiting on a conformation for upgrades from WP7.5 to 8, without buying a new phone. Cause I recently bought the Lumia 710 and love it. So let’s see

    • frankwick

      It doesn’t look like 7.5 devices will get 8.  The latest rumor is that 7.5 will go to 7.6 (or 7.7) and incorporate many of the WP8 features.

      • http://www.facebook.com/robinvanveghel Robin van Veghel

        would be stupid if they didn’t updgrade, cause than people won’t buy the lumia 900 or 710 that just came out a few months ago + nothing has been confirmed. So it’s all rumors

        • Adfadfa

          Nothing has confirmed, but to be honest thats what would be logical. Older models wont get features that are power hungry. Its simple as that.

          • Nikon133

             They can always do what Apple is doing – give new OS to older phones, but disable features that require new/faster hardware. iPhone 3GS runs iOS5 but without Siri, photo/video editing etc. From some leaked info, iOS6 will also come to 3GS, of course also with some disabled features.

          • savik

             That’s basically what they would be doing with WP 7.7

    • JSYOUNG571

      I believe that is majority of us waiting who have second generation phones with 7.5.  It is a make or break at this point with me as I have an Android as well. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/robinvanveghel Robin van Veghel

    Still waiting on a conformation for upgrades from WP7.5 to 8, without buying a new phone. Cause I recently bought the Lumia 710 and love it. Also on Wiki it says that the Lumia 800 & 900 will not be upgradable, while at the Lumia 710 they didn’t say anything. So let’s see

    • frankwick

      It doesn’t look like 7.5 devices will get 8.  The latest rumor is that 7.5 will go to 7.6 (or 7.7) and incorporate many of the WP8 features.

      • http://www.facebook.com/robinvanveghel Robin van Veghel

        would be stupid if they didn’t updgrade, cause than people won’t buy the lumia 900 or 710 that just came out a few months ago + nothing has been confirmed. So it’s all rumors

        • Adfadfa

          Nothing has confirmed, but to be honest thats what would be logical. Older models wont get features that are power hungry. Its simple as that.

          • Nikon133

             They can always do what Apple is doing – give new OS to older phones, but disable features that require new/faster hardware. iPhone 3GS runs iOS5 but without Siri, photo/video editing etc. From some leaked info, iOS6 will also come to 3GS, of course also with some disabled features.

          • savik

             That’s basically what they would be doing with WP 7.7

    • JSYOUNG571

      I believe that is majority of us waiting who have second generation phones with 7.5.  It is a make or break at this point with me as I have an Android as well. 

  • Steven

    EAP-TTLS support! It’s used in many Unis and Android and iPhone deals with it easy. But WP 7 has no chance to connect. Windows Mobile 5.x/6.x has no problem to connect with it either (altought through a mobile version of secureW2)…

  • Steven

    EAP-TTLS support! It’s used in many Unis and Android and iPhone deals with it easy. But WP 7 has no chance to connect. Windows Mobile 5.x/6.x has no problem to connect with it either (altought through a mobile version of secureW2)…

  • JSYOUNG571

    I don’t think it is fair that people who purchased A Windows Phone 7.5 and sitting in a two year agreement should be left in limbo because Microsoft can’t seem to stick with a current OS and just build onto it.  Instead they would rather trash the whole OS and start from scratch on a whole new one leaving what little fan base they got left behind. Then they are left scratching their heads wondering why the fan base is leaping off to Apple and Google’s mobile platforms. They continue to beg us to give them another chance.  I am quite sure everyone is going to have their argument about how the platform needs to grow to compete and we should just get over it. NO! I am just sitting back and waiting with Android on stand by to see if Microsoft is going to make it’s self or break it’s self with current fans and Windows 8.

    • Fred A.

      JSYOUNG571, you can go ahead and stay with your android phone. Believe it or not, not all WP7.5 users care much about an upgrade to WP8, as you put it. I have a Nokia 710 and am very happy with it…

      So, you can keep blasting MS all you want. Trust me, they will not miss you if you left the WP platform.

      I for one, wish them the best, as I wish the other platforms the best.

      • JSYOUNG571

        @Fred A. I surely hope you are not a spokesperson for Microsoft or any other company. You would definitely flat line their business. I am not blasting Microsoft, I am speaking from my experience as a customer who has been with them for years and has supported them through numerous Smartphone’s. I have a right to say what I want as a customer, you don’t like, don’t read it. Move to the next post.

        • Fred A.

          Mr. JSYOUNG571,

          I am not a spokesperson for MS or any other company. However, my reply to your post was a reflection to most of your posts here on liveside. You sound like someone who would rather not use MS products. Maybe, you shouldn’t. Maybe you don’t undertand them.

          That is just my opinion though-as I imply in my reply to you.

          I have read allot of your comments and they mostly seem to be anti-MS. Me, I really don’t care if you are anti-anything. But, I decided to take a few seconds out of my day to point out my observations to you.

          By the way, I have been in the field since the late 80′s, and am invested heavily on several tech firms. So, I have seen MS, and other companies, have some good years, and bad. But, I am pulling for them. We can’t have just one or two platforms to rule…

          Now, as far as me flat lining a business, I haven’t worked a 9-5 job (maybe you do-nothing wrong with that), for 9 to 10 years now. I run a Very, Very successful services business that I built out of my home, when I got tired of working for incompetent bosses.

          Have a great day sir.

          Regards,
          -Fred

          • JSYOUNG571

            @Fred I am sorry that my comments do not show favoritism toward Microsoft constantly like some others. When I post the negativity side of Microsoft, it is only because I know they can do better then this. It is like they get halfway there and then stop. All my services (email, skydrive, messenger and others) are with Microsoft period.  I want Microsoft to succeed because like you, I also feel that there should not be just one or two platforms that rule everyone. That has been my argument since day one all the way back to Windows Phone 6. So excuse me if you do not like my criticism, but it is for Microsoft to take note of how some of us die Microsoft fans feel. For you to read all my comments, it just lets me know I have a following fan.

          • RDP

            JSYOUNG 571, not here to flame you, but agree with what you’re saying, and that’s as the owner of several Windows PCs, an XBox 360 and formerly owning an HTC Titan.  To me, it’s more telling what MS has not said, more than what they have said.  WP people have been asked point blank whether current gen devices would be upgraded to Apollo, and either they didn’t comment, or only said all Mango apps would run on Apollo.  MS also said WP was supposed to be a middle ground between iOS and Android so that WP devices would not be running several different versions of the OS when upgrades were released, yet carriers would be allowed to push those out.  We’ve seen how well that’s worked out with AT&T.  Then both Mary Jo Foley and Paul Thurrott went on record stating their MS sources told them current WP devices wouldn’t get Apollo.  I trust those two more than anonymous comments to blog articles.  Also, as you mentioned, MS has abandoned hardware before with Windows Mobile.     All of that was enough for me to trade in my Titan and use that to pay the ETF to close the line.  I’m not saying WP is a bad mobile OS.  Some things it does well, but there’s still a lot of room for improvement, and potential being wasted.  And as you said, abandoning a whole line of devices, particularly with the push given to the Lumia, when people are still stuck in a long term contract is not a way to win potential users to your platform.  I also think the jury is out on what kind of success, if any, Windows 8 will prove to be on the desktop and in tablets, and that’s yet another variable in WP’s viability as a competing platform. 

          • Fred A.

            Thanks for the clarity JSYOUNG571. I appreciate your honesty, and your well thought out re-reply to me… I dought it, but hopefully someone at MS is reading the critic they get within these posts, and do something about how you and others feel.

            Talk to you soon…

    • Eric

      I’m not saying I’m not worried about *the rumor* that my Windows Phone may not get the upgrade, but how do you philosophically excuse only the Android ecosystem for randomly and chaotically exhibiting the same inability to upgrade devices to the latest greatest?

      • JSYOUNG571

        @Eric my concern for Windows and upgrading the OS is Microsoft shutting a whole marketplace to cater to only one OS at a time. I learned that with Windows 6.5 after Windows 7 came out. And just recently they closed off the market to people who were on Windows Phone OS 7, forcing them to upgrade to 7.5 to access the market. Who’s to say that when Windows Phone 8 comes out, they don’t shut down the market to Windows Phone 7.5 users not allowing them to access the Market unless they have a Windows Phone 8. I have never witness Apple or Google do that to people who may have OS on their phones that are older than the current OS. They are still able to get updated apps and even some new features for their phones. Like I said, I am waiting to see what they are going to do, but the past history is as clear as ever.

        • Eric

          That is a scary thought, but it doesn’t seem realistic. Since all phones in the market can be upgraded to 7.5, the requirement is realistic, if ‘inconvenient’. Lock the Adroid marketplace to only Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich and you’ve got a real problem. (I hear you about the Mobile 6.5, but it really isn’t a good argument here. It’s essentially a different product that was at end-of-life.)

          Now, I can’t believe that they would exclude users who simply could not upgrade their phone. But if Windows Phone 8 can be applied to all phones, then some reasonable time later you might expect them to ratchet up the Marketplace requirements again.

        • markjonson

          Actually, there are many apps in the “App Store” that require a minimum version of iOS to install. More importantly, you have to draw the line somewhere; and since 7.5 was made available for free to all phones running 7.0, there’s no reason to complain. If you haven’t upgraded to 7.5 by now, it’s not your carriers fault, nor the OEM’s or Microsoft’s.

        • Rafi

          Actually, I’ve recently been gifted an old IPhone 3G.  There are no more OS upgrades for it – the latest I could get is relatively old and there are lots of OS features I’m missing (iCloud, fast app switching, etc).  I also recently tried to install a couple of apps (Yelp was one) and got a message that “This app requires a newer version of the IPhone OS.”  So even though they haven’t officially “closed” a marketplace, the marketplace and OS keep moving forward and older phones are getting left behind.  No different from what Microsoft is doing.

    • Adfadfa

      What kind of bullshit is this. There will be a new kernel and not a new OS. All apps will work for both 7.5 and 8.

      Current phone will get an update with much more features. But stuff that need more power will obviously not come to the older models. Apple has done it many times and no one was complaining about it.

      • JSYOUNG571

        @Adfadfa while I respect your opinion, it is no need for you to reduce it down to what you sit on. We will wait and see if Microsoft will confirm this. Meanwhile, the silent treatment to a lot of Windows Phone 7.5 owners is not a good representation for Microsoft. Apple has never shut down their market to old iphones, and neither has Google to Androids.

        • Nikon133

           Like it or not, silent treatment is common. Apple, for example, hardly ever talks about their next products – iOS included – before planned presentation. First, it builds up hype. Second, it does not give advantage to competitors (who might try to implement some smart ideas before MS released WP8).

          MS will reveal a lot in 7 days – which is still a few months before actual release, I believe. I think that is fair enough. I also think that not too many people are too worried about software updates – unless their current software doesn’t work as advertised – but then, they want bugfix, not new version of iOS. I know number of people – majority, in fact – who don’t have most recent OS available for their phone, both iOS and Android.

          • markjonson

            I agree. Though I must admit I’m still very irritated AT&T has been allowed to sit on the disappearing keyboard bug fix and SSL cert revocations for 6 months. That’s way too long in a world where iOS gets maintenance updates every 2-3 months, sometimes even more frequently. And you can’t compare to Android, as the platform to beat is not Android. If Microsoft is serious about competing, they need to show up Apple and prove that they have something to offer that is not only on-par with iOS, but superior. And part of that superior experience should include making sure carriers deliver updates in a timely manner, because Apple is already doing it.

  • JSYOUNG571

    I don’t think it is fair that people who purchased A Windows Phone 7.5 and sitting in a two year agreement should be left in limbo because Microsoft can’t seem to stick with a current OS and just build onto it.  Instead they would rather trash the whole OS and start from scratch on a whole new one leaving what little fan base they got left behind. Then they are left scratching their heads wondering why the fan base is leaping off to Apple and Google’s mobile platforms. They continue to beg us to give them another chance.  I am quite sure everyone is going to have their argument about how the platform needs to grow to compete and we should just get over it. NO! I am just sitting back and waiting with Android on stand by to see if Microsoft is going to make it’s self or break it’s self with current fans and Windows 8.

    • Fred A.

      JSYOUNG571, you can go ahead and stay with your android phone. Believe it or not, not all WP7.5 users care much about an upgrade to WP8, as you put it. I have a Nokia 710 and am very happy with it…

      So, you can keep blasting MS all you want. Trust me, they will not miss you if you left the WP platform.

      I for one, wish them the best, as I wish the other platforms the best.

      • JSYOUNG571

        @Fred A. I surely hope you are not a spokesperson for Microsoft or any other company. You would definitely flat line their business. I am not blasting Microsoft, I am speaking from my experience as a customer who has been with them for years and has supported them through numerous Smartphone’s. I have a right to say what I want as a customer, you don’t like, don’t read it. Move to the next post.

        • Fred A.

          Mr. JSYOUNG571,

          I am not a spokesperson for MS or any other company. However, my reply to your post was a reflection to most of your posts here on liveside. You sound like someone who would rather not use MS products. Maybe, you shouldn’t. Maybe you don’t undertand them.

          That is just my opinion though-as I imply in my reply to you.

          I have read allot of your comments and they mostly seem to be anti-MS. Me, I really don’t care if you are anti-anything. But, I decided to take a few seconds out of my day to point out my observations to you.

          By the way, I have been in the field since the late 80′s, and am invested heavily on several tech firms. So, I have seen MS, and other companies, have some good years, and bad. But, I am pulling for them. We can’t have just one or two platforms to rule…

          Now, as far as me flat lining a business, I haven’t worked a 9-5 job (maybe you do-nothing wrong with that), for 9 to 10 years now. I run a Very, Very successful services business that I built out of my home, when I got tired of working for incompetent bosses.

          Have a great day sir.

          Regards,
          -Fred

          • JSYOUNG571

            @Fred I am sorry that my comments do not show favoritism toward Microsoft constantly like some others. When I post the negativity side of Microsoft, it is only because I know they can do better then this. It is like they get halfway there and then stop. All my services (email, skydrive, messenger and others) are with Microsoft period.  I want Microsoft to succeed because like you, I also feel that there should not be just one or two platforms that rule everyone. That has been my argument since day one all the way back to Windows Phone 6. So excuse me if you do not like my criticism, but it is for Microsoft to take note of how some of us die Microsoft fans feel. For you to read all my comments, it just lets me know I have a following fan.

          • RDP

            JSYOUNG 571, not here to flame you, but agree with what you’re saying, and that’s as the owner of several Windows PCs, an XBox 360 and formerly owning an HTC Titan.  To me, it’s more telling what MS has not said, more than what they have said.  WP people have been asked point blank whether current gen devices would be upgraded to Apollo, and either they didn’t comment, or only said all Mango apps would run on Apollo.  MS also said WP was supposed to be a middle ground between iOS and Android so that WP devices would not be running several different versions of the OS when upgrades were released, yet carriers would be allowed to push those out.  We’ve seen how well that’s worked out with AT&T.  Then both Mary Jo Foley and Paul Thurrott went on record stating their MS sources told them current WP devices wouldn’t get Apollo.  I trust those two more than anonymous comments to blog articles.  Also, as you mentioned, MS has abandoned hardware before with Windows Mobile.     All of that was enough for me to trade in my Titan and use that to pay the ETF to close the line.  I’m not saying WP is a bad mobile OS.  Some things it does well, but there’s still a lot of room for improvement, and potential being wasted.  And as you said, abandoning a whole line of devices, particularly with the push given to the Lumia, when people are still stuck in a long term contract is not a way to win potential users to your platform.  I also think the jury is out on what kind of success, if any, Windows 8 will prove to be on the desktop and in tablets, and that’s yet another variable in WP’s viability as a competing platform. 

          • Fred A.

            Thanks for the clarity JSYOUNG571. I appreciate your honesty, and your well thought out re-reply to me… I dought it, but hopefully someone at MS is reading the critic they get within these posts, and do something about how you and others feel.

            Talk to you soon…

    • Eric

      I’m not saying I’m not worried about *the rumor* that my Windows Phone may not get the upgrade, but how do you philosophically excuse only the Android ecosystem for randomly and chaotically exhibiting the same inability to upgrade devices to the latest greatest?

      • JSYOUNG571

        @Eric my concern for Windows and upgrading the OS is Microsoft shutting a whole marketplace to cater to only one OS at a time. I learned that with Windows 6.5 after Windows 7 came out. And just recently they closed off the market to people who were on Windows Phone OS 7, forcing them to upgrade to 7.5 to access the market. Who’s to say that when Windows Phone 8 comes out, they don’t shut down the market to Windows Phone 7.5 users not allowing them to access the Market unless they have a Windows Phone 8. I have never witness Apple or Google do that to people who may have OS on their phones that are older than the current OS. They are still able to get updated apps and even some new features for their phones. Like I said, I am waiting to see what they are going to do, but the past history is as clear as ever.

        • Eric

          That is a scary thought, but it doesn’t seem realistic. Since all phones in the market can be upgraded to 7.5, the requirement is realistic, if ‘inconvenient’. Lock the Adroid marketplace to only Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich and you’ve got a real problem. (I hear you about the Mobile 6.5, but it really isn’t a good argument here. It’s essentially a different product that was at end-of-life.)

          Now, I can’t believe that they would exclude users who simply could not upgrade their phone. But if Windows Phone 8 can be applied to all phones, then some reasonable time later you might expect them to ratchet up the Marketplace requirements again.

        • markjonson

          Actually, there are many apps in the “App Store” that require a minimum version of iOS to install. More importantly, you have to draw the line somewhere; and since 7.5 was made available for free to all phones running 7.0, there’s no reason to complain. If you haven’t upgraded to 7.5 by now, it’s not your carriers fault, nor the OEM’s or Microsoft’s.

        • Rafi

          Actually, I’ve recently been gifted an old IPhone 3G.  There are no more OS upgrades for it – the latest I could get is relatively old and there are lots of OS features I’m missing (iCloud, fast app switching, etc).  I also recently tried to install a couple of apps (Yelp was one) and got a message that “This app requires a newer version of the IPhone OS.”  So even though they haven’t officially “closed” a marketplace, the marketplace and OS keep moving forward and older phones are getting left behind.  No different from what Microsoft is doing.

    • Adfadfa

      What kind of bullshit is this. There will be a new kernel and not a new OS. All apps will work for both 7.5 and 8.

      Current phone will get an update with much more features. But stuff that need more power will obviously not come to the older models. Apple has done it many times and no one was complaining about it.

      • JSYOUNG571

        @Adfadfa while I respect your opinion, it is no need for you to reduce it down to what you sit on. We will wait and see if Microsoft will confirm this. Meanwhile, the silent treatment to a lot of Windows Phone 7.5 owners is not a good representation for Microsoft. Apple has never shut down their market to old iphones, and neither has Google to Androids.

        • Nikon133

           Like it or not, silent treatment is common. Apple, for example, hardly ever talks about their next products – iOS included – before planned presentation. First, it builds up hype. Second, it does not give advantage to competitors (who might try to implement some smart ideas before MS released WP8).

          MS will reveal a lot in 7 days – which is still a few months before actual release, I believe. I think that is fair enough. I also think that not too many people are too worried about software updates – unless their current software doesn’t work as advertised – but then, they want bugfix, not new version of iOS. I know number of people – majority, in fact – who don’t have most recent OS available for their phone, both iOS and Android.

          • markjonson

            I agree. Though I must admit I’m still very irritated AT&T has been allowed to sit on the disappearing keyboard bug fix and SSL cert revocations for 6 months. That’s way too long in a world where iOS gets maintenance updates every 2-3 months, sometimes even more frequently. And you can’t compare to Android, as the platform to beat is not Android. If Microsoft is serious about competing, they need to show up Apple and prove that they have something to offer that is not only on-par with iOS, but superior. And part of that superior experience should include making sure carriers deliver updates in a timely manner, because Apple is already doing it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1094784414 Omar Washington

    I wish people would stop complaining about MS not allowing upgrades when they haven’t even announced anything yet.  Once they do, then you can start griping.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1094784414 Omar Washington

    I wish people would stop complaining about MS not allowing upgrades when they haven’t even announced anything yet.  Once they do, then you can start griping.  

  • Mario Albertico

    Exciting times…I hope next week’s preview satisfies enough of our curiousity–though now it seems like Microsoft does not need much to announce in order to top Apple’s iOS6 “upgrades,” they still should, so they seem like they are more invigorated in this battle against Google.

    • markjonson

      Personally, without any inside info, I think Windows Phone 8 will blow away the skeptics. The problem is that it will never receive the mainstream media attention Apple gets every time Tim Cook opens his mouth.

      • Mario Albertico

        Too true.

  • Mario Albertico

    Exciting times…I hope next week’s preview satisfies enough of our curiousity–though now it seems like Microsoft does not need much to announce in order to top Apple’s iOS6 “upgrades,” they still should, so they seem like they are more invigorated in this battle against Google.

    • markjonson

      Personally, without any inside info, I think Windows Phone 8 will blow away the skeptics. The problem is that it will never receive the mainstream media attention Apple gets every time Tim Cook opens his mouth.

      • Mario Albertico

        Too true.

  • http://www.facebook.com/iain.simpson1 Iain Simpson

    Nothing has been confirmed by anyone as to what features are in WP8. Nothing has been confirmed as to upgrade paths for 1st and 2nd generation devices. Paul and Mary really don’t have any facts from MS either about anything to do with WP8. WP8 has been kept under very tight security within MS and its Closest Partners and I don’t think anything would get leaked to either Paul or Mary about anything. Also features included in Windows 8 are not in any builds the public has seen either. Microsoft has learnt from previous announcements not to say anything until they are completely ready and baked into the OS ready for all to enjoy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/iain.simpson1 Iain Simpson

    Nothing has been confirmed by anyone as to what features are in WP8. Nothing has been confirmed as to upgrade paths for 1st and 2nd generation devices. Paul and Mary really don’t have any facts from MS either about anything to do with WP8. WP8 has been kept under very tight security within MS and its Closest Partners and I don’t think anything would get leaked to either Paul or Mary about anything. Also features included in Windows 8 are not in any builds the public has seen either. Microsoft has learnt from previous announcements not to say anything until they are completely ready and baked into the OS ready for all to enjoy.

  • Tfa

    The way I look at it, I just bought a lumina 900 and am happy. I will be happy with it for awhile as it costs very little. If  WP8 has complelling features that I want, then I will trade it in and get a WinP8. To ease the “outrage” of so many on these blogs, perhaps they will throw a bone and make it less costly to upgrade. It is not like my current phone is not working or is obsolete, and when I purchased it, it had the features that I wanted and I made the purchase.

  • Tfa

    The way I look at it, I just bought a lumina 900 and am happy. I will be happy with it for awhile as it costs very little. If  WP8 has complelling features that I want, then I will trade it in and get a WinP8. To ease the “outrage” of so many on these blogs, perhaps they will throw a bone and make it less costly to upgrade. It is not like my current phone is not working or is obsolete, and when I purchased it, it had the features that I wanted and I made the purchase.