Nokia “Phi” to be unveiled at Nokia World 2012?

By LiveSide | In Mobile | Posted August 13, 2012 24 comments

NokiaA few weeks ago, a rumor came out which claims that Nokia is set to unveil three Windows Phone 8 devices at Nokia World 2012, scheduled to be held in Helsinki, Finland on September 5. It seems like more rumors are coming out which corroborates with this news. Nokia Innovation recently reported that according to an anonymous source, the Nokia “Phi” device that was spotted on WPBench a few months ago is going to be the Nokia Lumia 800’s successor. Below are a few details about the device according to the website:

  • 4.7” curved screen
  • Polycarbonate unibody design with irreplaceable battery
  • Qualcomm Dual Core CPU
  • External SD card slot
  • NFC support
  • LTE enabled

Interestingly, almost around the same time, WPDang reported that Sina Weibo user Playberry posted an image of an unknown Nokia Windows Phone device, which was pulled a short while later. Check it out below:

Nokia Phi

The image appears to be a never-before-seen Windows Phone device given its color, the position of the capacitive touch buttons, as well as the relative screen size. You can see a comparison of the above picture with the Nokia Lumia 800 and 900 below, courtesy of MyNokiaBlog, showing the difference:

Nokia Phi Comparison

Nokia Innovation claims that the picture shown above is in fact the Nokia “Phi” (a codename) which they have described. The device is expected to be announced during Nokia World on September 5, along with two other Nokia Windows Phone 8 devices. It was also reported that the device will be available on sale starting from the last week of October.

Today a device with the model number of RM-820 was also revealed via WPBench, running on build 8.0.9754.0 of the Windows Phone 8 OS. As a comparison, the Nokia Lumia 800 is RM-819. The device seems to be aimed for the AT&T network according to the device name:

Nokia RM-820

It will be really interesting what Nokia will bring to the table for its Windows Phone 8 line-up during Nokia World in less than a months time. We will be sure to cover the news here on LiveSide as we gets closer to date.

Posted August 13th, 2012 at 4:55 am
  • Hulmiho
  • Hulmiho
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mendel-Jedwab/1648947199 Mendel Jedwab

    The Windows logo is the (old) flag version. and Windows Phone 8 devices will have the new window logo. http://www.techreportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/JHP90221.jpg

    • http://www.jeffkibuule.com Jeff Kibuule

      The hardware isn’t finalized?

    • Damaster – LiveSide.net

      Prototype devices, like the one pictured, may still have the old Windows logo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mendel-Jedwab/1648947199 Mendel Jedwab

    The Windows logo is the (old) flag version. and Windows Phone 8 devices will have the new window logo. http://www.techreportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/JHP90221.jpg

    • http://www.jeffkibuule.com Jeff Kibuule

      The hardware isn’t finalized?

    • damaster

      Prototype devices, like the one pictured, may still have the old Windows logo.

  • Bittukpaul

    what about the front camera?

  • Bittukpaul

    what about the front camera?

  • Ed_Luva

    By the end of October, most smartphone shoppers will have had their new iPhones and Androids in their pockets for weeks or even months. Meanwhile, where are all of the WP8 apps gonna come from to take advantage of whatever hardware the ‘Phi’ ships with? Assuming, as I do that it’ll run WP7.5/7.8 apps, those were designed for the currently crippled Lumia offerings–the WP8 apps are starting with an app count of about zero–AGAIN! And the rush to market, meaning not much time for devs to work, combined with atrocious sales of the current Lumia line, causing very low incentive to work for a very minor ecosystem, is a perfect storm of low device satisfaction. This would support the high return rate Lumia is infamous for, and remember that Nokia will have to discount just to move the devices in the first place against highly carrier-subsidized iPhones and a flood of high-spec Androids shipping with ICS or Jellybean. Answer? Don’t buy a Lumia until its app gap is resolved, maybe 2013 sometime? Maybe never.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000386235192 Iain Berryman

      That’s rubbish! Windows have already confirmed that all apps from 7.5/7.8 will work on 8 so there won’t be a lack of them and to be honest, any apps worth having (big brand names) will be ready for release anyway. Plus the SDK given to developers will give them a head start on new apps. As said at the Windows Phone 8 summit, the only real difference between new and old apps will be the screen resolution and they showed us the 7.5/7.8 apps running on the 720p and they didn’t show any signs of looking stretched or ported.

      • Ed_Luva

        Did you notice that my post assumes that the WP 7.5/7.8 apps, which were designed for single-core, low spec’d phones, will run on WP8? But nobody wants to buy a WP8 device just to run those older, stale applications. So only those apps designed to harness the advantages of WP8 are really at issue, and there will be few of those at first. The announcement that a few VIP developers have been given WP8 development devices is only days old, so most devs DO NOT have WP8 devices to use. Time is very short, if Nokia’s promise of a near-term release is true, so odds are very few modern apps (just re-warmed WP7 ones) and rushed and buggy apps reflecting short development periods. No matter, though, since Windows Phail marketplace is down with tech problems anyways, lol.

        • Mark D

          I would have to agree, after spending time on the Apple marketplace on my iPad and in the Google Play store for my Asus transformer the Microsoft marketplace literally has tumble weeds blowing through. Its an utter disaster. To quote my partner who owns a lumia, as I do, “I will be getting an iPhone for my next phone. The Microsoft marketplace lacks a lot of decent apps that I want such as tiney tower, Frog games, decent task and note organiser.” her list goes on. I had nothing, the platform is dead. Galaxy S3 is a god dam good phone and I can buy it right now! No empty promises by a below standard smart phone.

          Microsoft, your ecosystem is empty. Oh wait, that was by design when you pissed off developers and made half an OS half a decade after the competition was embedded.

  • Ed_Luva

    By the end of October, most smartphone shoppers will have had their new iPhones and Androids in their pockets for weeks or even months. Meanwhile, where are all of the WP8 apps gonna come from to take advantage of whatever hardware the ‘Phi’ ships with? Assuming, as I do that it’ll run WP7.5/7.8 apps, those were designed for the currently crippled Lumia offerings–the WP8 apps are starting with an app count of about zero–AGAIN! And the rush to market, meaning not much time for devs to work, combined with atrocious sales of the current Lumia line, causing very low incentive to work for a very minor ecosystem, is a perfect storm of low device satisfaction. This would support the high return rate Lumia is infamous for, and remember that Nokia will have to discount just to move the devices in the first place against highly carrier-subsidized iPhones and a flood of high-spec Androids shipping with ICS or Jellybean. Answer? Don’t buy a Lumia until its app gap is resolved, maybe 2013 sometime? Maybe never.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000386235192 Iain Berryman

      That’s rubbish! Windows have already confirmed that all apps from 7.5/7.8 will work on 8 so there won’t be a lack of them and to be honest, any apps worth having (big brand names) will be ready for release anyway. Plus the SDK given to developers will give them a head start on new apps. As said at the Windows Phone 8 summit, the only real difference between new and old apps will be the screen resolution and they showed us the 7.5/7.8 apps running on the 720p and they didn’t show any signs of looking stretched or ported.

      • Ed_Luva

        Did you notice that my post assumes that the WP 7.5/7.8 apps, which were designed for single-core, low spec’d phones, will run on WP8? But nobody wants to buy a WP8 device just to run those older, stale applications. So only those apps designed to harness the advantages of WP8 are really at issue, and there will be few of those at first. The announcement that a few VIP developers have been given WP8 development devices is only days old, so most devs DO NOT have WP8 devices to use. Time is very short, if Nokia’s promise of a near-term release is true, so odds are very few modern apps (just re-warmed WP7 ones) and rushed and buggy apps reflecting short development periods. No matter, though, since Windows Phail marketplace is down with tech problems anyways, lol.

        • Mark D

          I would have to agree, after spending time on the Apple marketplace on my iPad and in the Google Play store for my Asus transformer the Microsoft marketplace literally has tumble weeds blowing through. Its an utter disaster. To quote my partner who owns a lumia, as I do, “I will be getting an iPhone for my next phone. The Microsoft marketplace lacks a lot of decent apps that I want such as tiney tower, Frog games, decent task and note organiser.” her list goes on. I had nothing, the platform is dead. Galaxy S3 is a god dam good phone and I can buy it right now! No empty promises by a below standard smart phone.

          Microsoft, your ecosystem is empty. Oh wait, that was by design when you pissed off developers and made half an OS half a decade after the competition was embedded.

  • Eric

    Cool story, bro!

  • Eric

    Cool story, bro!

  • lifeflicks

    The variety and number of apps is what makes the iPhone such a great device. Maybe BlackBerry and Microsoft will learn that at some point, as has the Android camp. 

  • http://earnesthart.blogspot.com/ LifeFlicksTech

    The variety and number of apps is what makes the iPhone such a great device. Maybe BlackBerry and Microsoft will learn that at some point, as has the Android camp. 

  • Stabaki

    The majority of the consumers dont give a s,,t about most of the apps.  Most of the smartphones in ourdays has already installed the most commonly used apps for the average buyer. And in my oppinnion consumers are already getting tired of usless apps that once they download and use a few times they just take space in a smartphone. Really clever and widelly spread app designers wil reacy fast and update them….

  • Stabaki

    The majority of the consumers dont give a s,,t about most of the apps.  Most of the smartphones in ourdays has already installed the most commonly used apps for the average buyer. And in my oppinnion consumers are already getting tired of usless apps that once they download and use a few times they just take space in a smartphone. Really clever and widelly spread app designers wil reacy fast and update them….