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Hotmail Plus now offers POP Access

Users for years have been lamenting the fact that Hotmail was only available as an http protocol, and did not offer POP access.  Well that's now changed for Hotmail Plus users, and plans are in the works for making POP access available to all Hotmail users for free, according to a blog post by Lead Program Manager for Hotmail Omar Shahine.

starting this week Hotmail Plus users ($19.95 a year) will be able to use POP access from any device. In the interest of transparency though I want to be clear that we have plans to offer POP to all users (all premium and free) but we aren't ready to do that yet. I can't comment on a timeframe for when free users will get POP, but we hope to do so within the next 12 months.

If you do take advantage of this premium feature and sign up for Hotmail plus you'll also get an ad-free experience, more storage, larger attachment support, and a non expiring account.

Our POP service requires that you use Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) with the POP and SMTP connection and use SMTP authentication. This is to ensure that your email address and password are not subject to tampering. The settings are the following:

  • POP: pop3.live.com (port 995)
  • SMTP: smtp.live.com (port 25)
    • Note: make sure you check the box that indicates that your outgoing server requires authentication (in most mail clients this is not checked by default).
  • Username: your full email address
  • Password: your Windows Live ID password

This means that a Hotmail Plus account will now allow users of email clients such as Eudora, Thunderbird, and Apple Mail, as well as most mobile devices including the Apple iPhone, will now be able to access their Hotmail accounts.

Shahine notes that at this time the change pertains to Hotmail Plus accounts only, and not MSN Premium accounts.

Published Sep 22 2007, 06:05 AM by Kip Kniskern
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Comments

 

Geonosis said:

Us MSN Premium customers, who pay monthly and have not received updated software in years really get screwed. Why are we repeatedly exempted from new features and enhancements? I'm still at just 2GB and I am a paying customer. MSN Premium and Hotmail Plus should be equals, but paying $9.95 per month is surely more than $19.95 per year. Where is the love MSN/Windows Live? Very annoyed.

September 22, 2007 7:03 AM
 

Mephiles said:

I'm fine just using WL Mail but that's great news!

September 22, 2007 9:46 AM
 

Drazick said:

I would like to see IMAP, Pop3 is passe' :-)

With *.MSF compability.

September 22, 2007 12:20 PM
 

bf1977 said:

But I already have POP and smtp using Windows Live Mail.

But this will be good for who cannot use the Net 2.o in its PC to have Windows Live Mail and for who it does not have Windows installed in schemes as them you scheme Apple and systems Like Unix.

September 22, 2007 2:05 PM
 

calum-r- said:

@Geonosis:  That's obviously because they want people to change their subscription to Hotmail Plus (when they can). If they offered the same subscription to MSN Premium subscribers, many people would not change.

September 22, 2007 2:49 PM
 

orcmid said:

[It's a little distracting that a comment form or link doesn't appear at all until I realize I must sign in. I'm slow this morning.]

Windows Live Mail (beta) is what you should use to have desktop access to hotmail (or MSN Premium mail) until the return us to the glory days of secure POP3/SMTP.  It might seem kinda ugly compared to even Outlook Express, but I figure that will improve.

I have been on MSN in one form or another since it was available with Windows 95.  I loved having POP3/SMTP access and I stopped using the account for outgoing e-mail (1) because spammers seemed to have gotten their hands on the complete membership list and (2) pop3 was removed and the various "connector" arrangements were too sucky.  I've kept the account all of this time because people still find me with it and it was the first public e-mail with my orcmid handle (so also how I'm reached on Windows Live Messenger and all of the places where I can use Windows Live ID).

The connectors to Outlook and Windows Live Mail work reasonably well at the moment (although the current connector cratered my Outlook accounts and that cost me some pain and it is still not great).  My still having an msn.com so I could let clients know that I was not accessing my main e-mail accounts was valuable for that day of interruption.  

Windows Live Mail works even with the Qwest rebranded MSN Premium and hotmail (q.com addresses) that my sister has on her shiny new Vista Home Premium system.  (I'm really jealous.)

It is a very interesting comment on the thought that the web and Imap are taking over to see POP3 return.  I welcome it.  

September 22, 2007 7:31 PM
 

yanverm said:

It's a good thing for a lot of mac users ;-)

With outlook & windows live mail, I personally have no interest in going back to the middle ages with pop3 accounts that can not synchronise as imap or http does.

September 22, 2007 8:27 PM
 

quikboy said:

@Geonosis: If you're not happy with the service, don't use it anymore. Don't subscribe to the anymore.

You're right, MSN Premium should cover Hotmail Plus. I'm quite surprised they don't offer that. I'm not familiar with either, but that doesn't seem right.

If there's enough users unsubscribing, maybe it will make a difference. Or you could give feedback to them, by finding some link there, or calling a representative.

It doesn't sound cool at all.

September 22, 2007 9:29 PM
 

Alber1690 said:

@Geonosis: I'm in the exact same position; you took the words right out of my mouth. I've been complaining and complaining and no response...we need to do something...

September 22, 2007 10:11 PM
 

Geonosis said:

@calum-r: If they truly wanted to phase out MSN Premium, they would have announced that our $9.95 per monthy accounts are now being converted to $19.95 per year accounts. Are you serious? Give me a break.

@quikboy: A little too quick there. Don't you think I know I can cancel the service at my will? I don't need to be reminded of this common knowledge. I choose not to cancel for many reasons, of which I am not going into. However the services should be streamlined I agree and it was always the case for decades. It's only been segmented recently, we always got Hotmail Plus enhancements and our accounts share the same features. The problem is that the reps are ousourced to Canada and have no clue about anything. MSN Premium should have an official Live Space for customers to communicate. Everyone at MS/Windows Live is so elusive about MSN Premium users and any updates. None want to/have the information to give out. It's the run around.

September 23, 2007 7:49 AM
 

Geonosis said:

@Alber1690: Yeah we do. I agree, it's just a nightmare to deal with. How have you been complaining? Perhaps we need to ascertain the contact information for the "executive customer relations" team at MSN. It's been two years without updates, it's almost as if the product has been abandoned.

September 23, 2007 7:57 AM

 

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