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Windows Live Messenger – more new features expected

So now that everybody is using the leaked Wave 3 Milestone 1 build, (oops we can’t talk about that) and Microsoft employees are using the latest Milestone 2 daily builds, we thought it was time to just cut to the chase and look at what we expect to see come final release (or M3 for those keeping count). As always, this may change, so just think of it as a taster of what is to come.

 

Here’s what’s showing up for the first time in these pictures.

by Chris on 04 Sep 2008, 03:45 PM with 13 comment(s)

Windows “Live-ly”? Will there be a 3D story?

In case you missed it, Google released a new toy into beta today, called Lively.  In a nod to Software + Services, you download and install an app in Windows, and then log in to Lively.  Here’s a description of what happens next from Google Blogoscoped:

Once you logged into a room, you can start customizing your avatar. First you can pick from a base type – like male, female or animal – and then you can fine-tune your hair, skin color, eyes and more. You’ll then see yourself surrounded by other avatars, and there’s background music and lots of laughing, grunting and other noises. The graphic has a lighthearted cartoon touch, reminiscent of something like a Lucasarts 3D game. When you talk by using the chat box at the bottom, your words appear as speech bubble above your character.

Lively exists in “rooms” you create, which according to Google’s Niniane Wang, express your personality:

If you enter a Lively room embedded on your favorite blog or website, you can immediately get a sense of the room creator’s interests, just by looking at the furniture and environment they chose. You can also express your own personality by customizing your avatar’s look, showing people who you are without having to say a word. Of course, you can chat with each other, and you can also interact through animated actions.

configure-room

(screenshot from Google Blogoscoped)

Another 3D product, to probably their great dismay, was announced (well announced again) on the same day as Lively.  Vivaty, a new company with a new product, Scenes.  This one works with Facebook and AIM, currently:

vivaty

So what does this all have to do with Windows Live?  Well our friend Jamie Thomson wondered the same thing.  Now we really admire Jamie’s passion about Windows Live, but sometimes his blog posts are long on wishful thinking and short on fact.  This time, however, he lays out a compelling case for Windows Live working on some 3D magic of their own.  His synopsis:

  1. In Fall (I call it Autumn) 2007 a Microsoft exec said to expect big things in about a year or so.
  2. There's a big Virtual Earth release coming up in fall 2008 so says a Virtual Earth evangelist.
  3. Someone involved with building 3D models in Virtual Earth has come out and said that Microsoft are building a virtual world using Virtual Earth.

(links added from the original blog post)

In addition, if you watch the Channel 9 video that Sunshine posted here this morning, Mark Brown (hey the same VE Evangelist that said there’s a big release coming this fall – oooh the plot thickens!) interviews two guys who work on the UltraCam, and they are all about separating the plant material from buildings, etc., and also capturing perspective views of buildings.  If you listen closely to the video, you’ll begin to understand that much of what appears in Live Maps 3D is being captured and created (and planned for from the get-go) in the camera and the software.

And of course there’s the whole 3DVia piece, where all kinds of 3D objects can be constructed and included in Live Maps 3D.

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UPDATE:  Was just reminded of the Microsoft acquisition of Caligari, who already have a 3D rendering product out – TrueSpace:

Truespace

Will we be seeing something from these guys soon?

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When Live Maps 3d was first demoed, it included advertising in the form of billboards that were inserted into scenes.  Those quickly disappeared, but the technology to add to the 3D scenes (and the concept of having advertising within Live Maps 3D) has been around since the beginning.  Again, here’s Matt Baron, the 3DVia guy quoted above:

First they are building the real world, and step by step they are coming closer to a fully immersive environment.

While both Lively and Vivaty are interesting, especially Lively with the power of Google behind it, neither one of these products seems like much of a step forward from Second Life, which while it took off at first, has kind of lost its edge.  Will a more fully immersive environment, with direct ties to the real world, take the next step in 3D?  While we don’t have any solid information, we think Jamie might just be on to something.


Posted Jul 09 2008, 06:29 AM by Kip Kniskern
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foaf wrote re: Windows “Live-ly”? Will there be a 3D story?
on 07-09-2008 11:35 AM

Being able to walk / communicate / interact in the 'real' virtual world (MS Virtual Earth) is a compelling reason to get into a metaverse.

I left Second Life as soon as I arrived due to the sheer scale and lack of clear objective. But seeing the real world through a in browser mash up of Live Maps 3d and perhaps a layer of Live Photosynth, has potential.

Lively looks like it's Google desparate attempt to corner the Social Network market (ok I know Orkut was it's first attempt).

Vasudev wrote re: Windows “Live-ly”? Will there be a 3D story?
on 07-09-2008 11:44 AM

Not interested.

Something similar to Yahoo Avatar Towns ?

avatars.yahoo.com/avatar_towns.html

Dont know what Google may bring in future based on Lively? Googly ?

Mephiles wrote re: Windows “Live-ly”? Will there be a 3D story?
on 07-09-2008 4:51 PM

I think this'll turn out interesting. This is the first time a virtual life has been intergrated into a virtual earth.

Inky wrote re: Windows “Live-ly”? Will there be a 3D story?
on 07-09-2008 7:26 PM

No thanks. This smells too much like Second Life and IMvu, or whatever it is called. Wake me up until we have a true immersive enivornment, aking to a holodeck. Until then, I'll stick to just text, thank you very much.

mgbaron wrote re: Windows “Live-ly”? Will there be a 3D story?
on 07-10-2008 1:53 PM

How quickly misinformation spreads.  My comment on Robert Scoble's blog was pure conjecture and I have no inside knowledge of MS's strategy in this arena.

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