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Spaces Team shuts down their blog (eh, what?)

spacecraft From the News of the Weird Department, the team that makes the blogging software for Microsoft, Windows Live Spaces, has decided to shut down their, umm, blog.  Posts on The Space Craft and Windows Live Wire announced on Friday that the two would be merging, with content appearing on Windows Live Wire (the Windows Live team blog).  Judging by the numbers of commenters on the posts asking for help with their Windows Live issues, it seems to us that Windows Live needs MORE blogs, not less, but maybe that’s just us.  The posts helpfully provide links to the Windows Live Twitter account, and to the Windows Live Messenger Facebook page, apparently just to add an even more surreal spin to the story.

Of course we know probably better than anyone how tough it is to blog consistently about Windows Live, but we’ve always found it slightly bizarre that there aren’t lots more Spaces bloggers.  Rob Dolin has done a good job, and there are others, but this is one team at Microsoft who don’t seem to know how to eat their own dogfood.

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Edgar J. wrote re: Spaces Team shuts down their blog (eh, what?)
on Sat, Apr 18 2009 8:24 PM

Maybe not to many people uses Spaces since mysapce, facebook, blogger etc.

Also LiveSide show really change this theme doesnt look good, me dont like it. Not much style.

gregsedwards wrote re: Spaces Team shuts down their blog (eh, what?)
on Sat, Apr 18 2009 8:41 PM

I think it indicates a tighter integration on the horizon between Spaces and the rest of Windows Live. I've said for a long time that Spaces is like the red-headed stepchild of WL. It's themes and tools are way out of step with other facets of the service, fail to measure up to real professional calibur blogging services, and frankly most people's Spaces look like a train wreck.

Spaces was really the first element of what we today call WL, and it's been pulled apart piecemeal into other areas of the service. For instance, Photos is now part of SkyDrive, Favorite Things are now (sort of) housed under Profile, and Spaces "friends" have now been integrated into People.

IMO, it's time for the "blog" (which, contrary to most people's opinion, is not equivalent to your "space" - your space is the entire set of pages that currently house your dashboard/modules page, blog, and lists) to come out of Spaces and relocate just off of your Profile. Same goes for all Spaces lists. Then, they need to give you the ability to personalize the URL of your Profile page, and make your "space" accessible via some kind of link from the Profile page. If you want to keep a space and make your blog accessible there, then you'd still have a module that could do that. That arrangement would make a lot more sense to me (and probably alot of other people).

And while they're at it, they need to punch up the post tagging capabilities, including support for multiple categories per blog post, and provide WordPress-style theming tools that can be fully customized.

I'm not saying do away with Spaces altogether, but I shouldn't have to maintain an entire "space" full of widgets, just 'cause I want a Live-powered blog.

Nick wrote re: Spaces Team shuts down their blog (eh, what?)
on Sat, Apr 18 2009 8:52 PM

@Edgar J.  I was the original themer for liveside, but since getting my new job, and a few other issues, Kip and the team have decided to customize the default CS theme, nothing wrong with that, but sometime (most times in my case) a more advanced theme is needed.  Sad thing was that I custom coded a lot of stuff when the staff wanted the ability to customize it on the fly when they needed it.  Waiting a week or more for me to get round to it wasn't fair to them, or to my work load.  Mind you, I've rescently made a new theme for a CS install at the school I work for now, and it's kick ass, runs CS, default theme, just customized header.  www.chsit.org.uk, what do you think?

Anyhow, with regards to the post, I stopped using spaces ages ago, their blogging software just doesn't have enough in it for my liking.  Consolodation may indicate that they are running out of content, so merging the two blogs simply means that they want more traffic going to that one blog.  MSDN and technet blogs both run on Community Server btw ;-)

alogan wrote re: Spaces Team shuts down their blog (eh, what?)
on Sat, Apr 18 2009 8:55 PM

Kip - dont worry baby!

Windows Live Wire is the "consumer" focused version of the main newsfeed from http://dev.live.com which is where we post all the developer focused stuff.

Its much easier to track one blog for all the big news :)

I think its cool we use twitter for @liveframework and @windowslive :)

-Angus

Edgar J. wrote re: Spaces Team shuts down their blog (eh, what?)
on Sun, Apr 19 2009 3:30 PM

@Nick - Looks nice. Good work (y).

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