Windows Live Mail? No? How about Windows Live Hotmail....?

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Windows Live SkyDrive Is Here

LiveSide - News blog — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:36:33 GMT

I think the title sums it up well: Windows Live SkyDrive is now live according to the team's new

re: Windows Live Mail? No? How about Windows Live Hotmail....?

cykotoxik — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:20:38 GMT

This is just a total fiasco by the Microsoft research/marketing team. Thousands/millions spent on choosing a name and they come up with "Live". Sigh. MS can be the butt of more jokes by Unix, Apple, etc. with having an anadrome of LIVE -> EVIL.

MSN was just fine for Microsoft brand recognition. MSN is nice and short. Easily remembered and associated with Microsoft. Can also be formal, businesslike and can be placed with any age group/niche required. MSN Messenger, MSN Mail, etc. looks and sounds better then...sigh...Live Messenger, Live Hotmail, etc.

It's time for for whatever Microsoft Department that created this mess to publicly admit their mistakes and revert back all services to MSN. Or just research another name and transfer all the services to that name to avoid any confusion for anyone.

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jimbob — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:39:23 GMT

At least it will bring back some of that brand recognition I know some users were so willing to get back. Bit of a mouthfull though.

Please visit www.windowslivestudy.spaces.live.com to post a general comment on your thoughts on Windows Live.

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OceanMotion — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:11:11 GMT

It truly is backwards. They have a chance blew the doors off with a new brand, nice looking interface across all products but instead it's a mess with no sense of direction. Personally, I think it doesn't even need the Windows name to be so prominent.

Live Mail

Live Space

Live Messenger

Live Maps

Live Soapbox

Those are all perfect, short and sweet. Sure, plaster the Windows name on them but not their official names when you promote them. It's so quick and easy. Who the hell says Windows Hotmail ? Exactly. They don't need anything more. The Windows name will be there on the web pages clearly as always but do not refer to them as Windows "Such and such".

I can't understand how MS are all over the place with this. The people making these decisions shouldn't be after this continued mess. Bite the bullet take a hit in pride and get some back. Ask you consumers for pete sake. Live "example" is simple and snappy. Jeez, was that hard. Well, we are MS and yes it is.

Sad, very sad.

Windows Live Wifi rebrands to MSN

LiveSide - News blog — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:05:02 GMT

Yet more juggling between MSN and Windows Live brands. The Windows Live Wifi Suite, including the Hotspot

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sxmangel — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:55:07 GMT

I agree with Chris, they're wasting money on name changes and crappy marketing strategies [well...lack there of]

You'd think that the biggest problem would be on the technical inside. Instead it's figuring out a name for these things. If the services are branded as 'Live' products, then all the names should involve Live and Live alone. Let it stick to Live Mail, Live Spaces, Live Messenger etc. and be done with it. They're constantly branding and re-branding.

I wonder if it takes people this long to name their kids....

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CalumJR — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:28:22 GMT

I agree with Legion there fully about the OE and WM name changes!And I hope the project manager for Windows Live "Hotmail" sees these comments!

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Legion — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 06:09:11 GMT

Aw, for the love of -- !

What's the next name going to be?! Microsoft MSN Windows Live Hot Email HTML Message Center Internet Edition For Computer Users?!

Windows Live Mail was JUST. FINE. I can't see anyone being any more confused over a branding change from Hotmail to Live Mail than they would be by the name change from Outlook Express in XP to Windows Mail in Vista. Whoever came up with this 11th-hour branding change needs to be FIRED.

RIGHT NOW.

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CalumJR — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:31:54 GMT

I don't understand why people keep saying Hotmail users will "get confused if they changed to Windows Live Mail". I don't understand that????

Surely people know MSN is owned by Microsoft (if they don't they can look at the bottom of MSN.com) and Windows is a Microsoft product...thus, even a dumbass could be able to make the connection that they have just changed the name of Hotmail, especially if they are curently using Windows Live Messenger!

Another reason why I find it hard to believe is because I don't see how anybody can be so pathetic as to get "confused" and start "despising" the service if only part of the name was "Mail" instead of "Hotmail". People do not need to "get used to the change", I mean the whole UI has changed and part of the name has changed anyway ("Windows Live" instead of "MSN"). All MS need to do is put a mesage on the Hotmail homepage to inform these pathetic conservative n00bs that the service and name has changed to "Windows Live Mail" and then re-direct them after they have signed in.

To say "people need to get used to the change" is pathetic - especially when you are just adding three more childlike and stupid letters to the already awesome name, making it longer, childish and harder to say!

P.S. Also, if people need to get used to the change from "Hotmail" to "Windows Live Mail", why didn't they need to get used to the change from "MSN Messenger" to "Windows Live Messenger"......pathetic!

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Zaarin — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:16:32 GMT

Google translate?

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bf1977 — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:39:06 GMT

As an afterthought this change of name did not please me! If I have an email of the Hotmail, that continues being Hotmail or moves for Windows Live Hotmail. Now I that I also have one @live.com, want that he continues as Windows Live Mail, after all the Windows Live Mail I am a new service and the Hotmail is a older service, that the Hotmail moves for Windows Live Hotmail. But that who has @live.com it continues being Windows Live Mail. Now who makes confusion with the names is person layperson in computer science and Internet, because any one knows to differentiate an email Hotmail that is a service and the new Windows Live Mail. I find that the Microsoft is giving a shot in the foot if to on account change the name of the Windows Live Mail of people whom nor they know to work with a PC and they confuse name of services. Serious Microsoft speaks!

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rhann — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:38:58 GMT

microsofts got a few billion, so they won't really notice

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Chris — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:19:14 GMT

But "Windows Live" is supposed to differentiate the new range of products and services from the old style MSN products. If you keep the same names "Hotmail, Messenger, Spaces" and drop the prefix, then you end up back at square 1.

Ok not quite at square 1, you've wasted a few million $ in branding and marketing most likely. But hey who's counting.

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tophtucker — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:11:38 GMT

"what about the desktop version? will it be Windows Live Hotmail desktop?"

Doubt it. In fact, as azz0r points out--

"Now I hope they rename Windows Live Mail Desktop to Windows Live Mail."

--it gives them a chance to differentiate the two. WLMd has always done more than just Windows Live Mail accounts, so might as well just call it Windows Live Mail now.

As for the name change, it'll reduce confusion among those switching from MSN Hotmail, at least. And on the plus side, now we can just keep calling it Hotmail... why say the 'Windows Live' part every time now that it has a unique service name (as opposed to the generic 'Mail')?