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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.liveside.net/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx</link><description>With all the news about Windows Live/Live Search products being dropped for good lately we almost forgot to add another one to the list - one that never made it out of beta. After the first drop of Codename Orbit hit the web back in December 2006 and</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>re: Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx#8443</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:14:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">56c526a3-1f9b-4262-a0cc-2de2ce4c7619:8443</guid><dc:creator>Alimaggs</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Good to know. &amp;nbsp;I went out and bought the VOIP phones (Phillips Live Messenger), but here in the UK at least, they dropped being able to charge up using Mastercard and Visa leaving only American Express and Diner Card which very few people in the UK actually have. &amp;nbsp;So it's been a bit of a dead service for me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hopefully, whatever takes its place will be more readily available.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.liveside.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8443" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx#8434</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:12:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">56c526a3-1f9b-4262-a0cc-2de2ce4c7619:8434</guid><dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Alimaggs: Yes they do, we've got a post coming up on that hopefully this weekend (or when I find time!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.liveside.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8434" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx#8431</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">56c526a3-1f9b-4262-a0cc-2de2ce4c7619:8431</guid><dc:creator>Alimaggs</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Shame really. &amp;nbsp;Any idea on what's going all with the VOIP features of Messenger these days? &amp;nbsp;Verizon drops out soon don't they?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.liveside.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8431" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx#8428</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:05:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">56c526a3-1f9b-4262-a0cc-2de2ce4c7619:8428</guid><dc:creator>quikboy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and MSN WiFi Hotspots is dead by the way. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://hotspot.msn.com/"&gt;http://hotspot.msn.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It conveniently redirects you to Jiwire, a much better service. They even use Virtual Earth. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.liveside.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8428" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx#8425</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:51:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">56c526a3-1f9b-4262-a0cc-2de2ce4c7619:8425</guid><dc:creator>ChaosAngelic</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This is getting annoying... I was really waiting for this one to come out. &amp;nbsp;It gets really annoying when you're watching a movie in Media Center and someone sends you an IM. &amp;nbsp;This type of thing could easily fix that... well, the 360 has WLM functionality, so I guess I'll be using mine more often.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.liveside.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8425" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx#8422</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:10:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">56c526a3-1f9b-4262-a0cc-2de2ce4c7619:8422</guid><dc:creator>foaf</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Only one I am fussed about is WL Messenger for Media Center. It's badly needed, and would be a USP over the competition from other IM apps. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.liveside.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8422" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx#8412</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:23:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">56c526a3-1f9b-4262-a0cc-2de2ce4c7619:8412</guid><dc:creator>quikboy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Another failure? At least they're working on throwing out throwing bad projects out the door, and hopefully management goes somewhere that's useful. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Besides, most Microsoft betas are a joke. In the end, they &amp;nbsp;either:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a) Come out exactly the same as they were in beta - With only minor performance fixes or whatnot. No new requested features, removing things or whatever. Case in point : Toolbar, Live Gallery, Favorites, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;b) Come out completely different &amp;nbsp;from their beta form - As in they weren't in the beta, but was added when it was released, making the beta completely useless. Case in point : MSN Video (Soapbox?), MSN Silverlight Toolbar, Live Search Shopping, Live Hotmail, Live Spaces, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;c) Get killed off - Live TV, Live Barcode, WiFi Center, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most betas are pointless. For some reason, I don't think MS always takes the feedback seriously. If they did, the A, B, and C shouldn't be happening. There's rarely ever any betas where user suggestions actually make it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.liveside.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8412" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Another One Bites the Dust - Windows Live for TV</title><link>http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2008/06/10/another-one-bites-the-dust-windows-live-for-tv.aspx#8409</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:30:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">56c526a3-1f9b-4262-a0cc-2de2ce4c7619:8409</guid><dc:creator>PSCSmoke</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;MS shifted gears to U-Verse and the IPTV architecture of that project.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lately there has been a wonderous clean-up of the sandbox, kinda like raking the old Zen meditation garden.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stage 1 : delete projects that aren't on the cool list&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stage 2: ....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stage 3: PROFIT!&lt;/p&gt;
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