OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

hugoleijtens — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:40:45 GMT

Hi Chris,

There are a few reasons why OneCare shouldn't be a part of the core OS. One of them might be (probably will) antitrust issues. One of the other reaons is that the security market is growing from 10,5 billion dollars to more than 13 billion dollars in 2012. It makes a good business sense to catch a piece of that action (www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument)

I agree with you that OneCare is a great Software+Services product and that the branding can be perfectly under Windows Live. However on a sales level OneCare is no longer a part of the Live divisions but has been brought under de Client division. I'm not talking about product development but product management.

I also agree that I would love to get the choice to keep using the Windows Defender and the Windows Firewall. Those are both great products and I see no extra use in replacing those products.

Do you perhaps have an overview of the things that have changed from 2.0 to 2.5? Maybe a product powerpoint?

By the way, I'm daily reader of your blog, great job!

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

Chris — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:11:25 GMT

I can see the logic branding OneCare under Windows Live, for a start making it a core part of Windows would see the same anti-trust issues Microsoft had with Internet Explorer.

Now that OneCare has the Photo Backup and Circles features, its definitely moving into the software+services realm, which imo means it fits with Windows Live. Happy to hear anymore reasons why it shouldn't be WL though...

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

JohnCz — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:56:24 GMT

Kristopher & Foaf, I respectfully disagree that OneCare doesn't fit into the Windows Live brand. It requires Live ID for one and is solely available for the Windows platform. Today the main web based feature for OneCare is Family Safety. I believe Microsoft might have some plans to expand on OneCare services. Perhaps thats why they placed OneCare prominently in the Wave 2 Menu. Just a thought.

For me, my wishlist item is compatibility with Windows Home Server. Overall, OneCare 2.5 is a solid product.

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

foaf — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:54:18 GMT

@Khristopher - totally agree, it doesn't feel like it sits with the rest of the "family" at all. The only advantage I see is that it gets the Windows Live brand into a tangible object.

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

mdsharpe — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:35:14 GMT

The one thing preventing me from liking and using OneCare is the inability to disable certain parts of it. I want to use Windows Defender and Windows Firewall, but I'd like to use OneCare for antivirus.

Until OneCare stops stomping all over Vista's built-in firewall i'm not interested.

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

damaster — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:53:37 GMT

Just adding on to my previous post, only the free trial is available for download at the moment. OneCare for Server subscriptions will not be available until September 2008.

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

damaster — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:51:15 GMT

OneCare for Server has already been released. It's available at:

onecare.live.com/.../default.htm

Only Windows Server 2008 is supported.

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

dersonc — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:31:47 GMT

It's now avaliable in Brazil and it costs USD69,95 for antivirus and USD70 for online backup.

re: OneCare v 2.5 Final released to production: Available now

Khristopher — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:06:51 GMT

Why is Onecare a Windows Live product? It makes zero sense. It should be just Windows product. It doesn't fit in with the whole Live branding at all.