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Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?

One thing the LiveSide Stickers Around the World project really brought home, for someone who lives and breaths a US-centric life, was how much goes on in the world that is not neccesarily happening in the US.  I watched Robert Scoble whiteboard the Techmeme phenomenon recently, and noted his comments on how Techmeme in particular, and A-Listers in general, were English speaking and US centric.  Over here, its been all Facebook all the time lately, but when I ran across some ComScore numbers on Social Networking sites around the world, it got me to thinking, and to digging a little deeper.

Now before we get started it may be a good idea to talk about terms a bit.  Of course some would argue that Blogger or WordPress or even Windows Live Spaces aren't "Social Networking sites", and if you mean that they're not like Facebook, then you're probably right.  However these are sites that people use to connect with their friends, to share their thoughts and ideas, and to learn more about each other.  That all of them don't have a development platform (yet), or that Scoble doesn't maintain 5,000 friends in Spaces or Blogger, really is part of the issue here.  For now, let's let the users define what a Social Networking site is by what they actually use.

ComScore was good enough to provide me with a very interesting set of numbers:  Social Networking sites, by unique visitors per month (all ages 15 and over), broken down by region.  I fired up Excel 2007 and knocked out some charts of the data, which Sarah from Comscore was kind enough to provide in a spreadsheet.  Let's start with the North America numbers:

(click on any of the graphs for a larger image)

Social Networking Sites - North America: Unique visitors per month (000)

NorthAmerica

As expected, MySpace is in a runaway lead, Facebook is coming on strong, Blogger is hanging in there, and Spaces pretty much brings up the rear.  If you read the blogs and follow Techmeme, TechCrunch, and Scoble, these numbers aren't anything surprising.

But take a look at the Worldwide numbers, and a somewhat different story emerges.

Social Networking Sites - Worldwide: Unique visitors per month (000)

Worldwide

While Facebook is growing steadily worldwide, here the numbers tell a far different story.  Windows Live Spaces is battling it out with Blogger and MySpace for the top spot.  Just for reference, we can see that the Worldwide usage of Social Networking sites is growing steadily:

Social Networking Sites: Total Worldwide unique visitors per month to the top ten sites (000)

TTLWorldWide

(note also here that for clarity I took the top 6 sites for each region, but the totals above represent worldwide numbers for the top 10 sites)

So 800,000,000 unique visitors in the month of September 2007 to the top 10 Social Networking sites around the world.  Not an inconsequential number.

In Europe, Spaces and Blogger again are leading the pack:

Social Networking Sites - Europe: Unique visitors per month (000)

Europe

And in the Asia Pacific region, similar numbers for Spaces, but a whole new set of competitors, MySpace and Facebook not among them:

Social Networking Sites - Asia Pacific: Unique visitors per month (000)

AsiaPacific

Lots of talk about Orkut in Latin America (well, Brazil):

Social Networking Sites - Latin America: Unique visitors per month (000)

LatinAmerica

but Orkut is still not anywhere close to Spaces and Blogger. And to round out the numbers, in the Middle East and Africa:

MiddleEastAfrica

where again it is Spaces and Blogger at the top, with Facebook definitely making a move.

Fun with numbers

So what does it all mean?  For one thing, the future for Windows Live Spaces does not appear to be as bleak as US pundits make it out to be.  If anything, the competition with Blogger may be much more of a challenge worldwide for Spaces than Facebook or MySpace.  Certainly the market seems lucrative, with lots and lots of people blogging and posting pictures and sharing.  Spaces just upgraded its photo storage and sharing capabilities, already has the basics of a friends network in place, and all indications are that it will soon begin a migration of MSN Groups into a new Windows Live Groups to complement the recently announced Windows Live Events.  Spaces also offers tight integration with Windows Live Messenger and Windows Live Hotmail, and Messenger integration is something both Blogger and Facebook lack, or at least not integration with some 300 million Windows Live Messenger users.  Certainly Spaces has had its share of growing pains.  The old way it handled photos was unacceptable, really, but that has been addressed if not totally fixed.  Although Spaces has been out of beta since April 2005, it is only just coming into its own in feeling like a complete product, but there is a lot of work left to do. 

Mary Jo Foley wrote recently on Microsoft's seeming reluctance to promote Spaces within the US, and indeed if you read the press in the US or follow the blogs, Windows Live Spaces is not much more than an also ran.  From looking at these numbers, though, and the discrepancies between the US numbers and those worldwide, my US centric colleagues and mentors may be a little premature in crowning Facebook king of the social network sites.

A note on Comscore

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The numbers used in preparation of this post were provided free of charge from ComScore, with no strings attached, and for that we thank them. 

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Mephiles wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-24-2007 9:51 AM

Over here in the UK, we love windows live spaces (well I do anyway). I have never used myspace, facebook or blogger in my life! Spaces offers the best service.

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on 10-24-2007 10:54 AM

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CalumJR wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-24-2007 1:24 PM

Well I also live inthe UK, and i know very few people who use Windows Live Spaces regularly.

A lot of my friends have a Windows Live Space, but hardly use it, they especially do not use all or many features.

A lot of them proberly haven't even seen the latest Wave 2 updates they use it that little!

MySpace and Facebook are both used most among my friends (followed by Bebo, which for some reason isn't mentioned in this survey?).

But I know many people who are using Facebook more and more (even more than MySpace which they used to use a lot).

I myself hardly use my Windows Live Space. I use Facebook and MySpace mostly. And also Bebo every so often.

ranpha wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-24-2007 2:14 PM

In South-East Asia countries such as Philippines, Singapore or Malaysia, countries that does not really censor the Internet, very few people uses Facebook or Myspace. The ones I have seen mostly use Friendster (overwhelmingly) or a few MySpace users.

Users of Spaces are few, but gazillion of people here uses Windows Live Messenger (dominant alongside Yahoo! Messenger with no AOL or Google Talks users in sight) and likes to customize their profiles (with all those weird symbols etc.) . Thus you should not expect those people to use the full capabilities of Spaces such as blogging.

Speaking of blogging, Spaces are not really popular for this purpose with blogger or blogspot takes the cake. This apply even for those who has Windows Live Messenger and uses Spaces extensively for profiles. I do not know why though.

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Attack Blogger wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-24-2007 6:19 PM

I think I covered the key points here in my last blog post (ironically written on Windows Live Spaces).

I wrote: 'Windows Live Spaces is trying to become Facebook. This of course will not work. Facebook is successful because it is cool and all the university students use it. Spaces is not cool and no particular group of people use it. Blogging seems to be going out of fashion here perhaps because so few people proportionally do it properly yet it is still a good blogging platform.'

Additionally, my kids and all their friends use Bebo so why is this invisible?

Kip Kniskern wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-24-2007 7:04 PM

I took the top 6 sites for each region for the charts, just to make them a little less cluttered.  Bebo shows up at #9 on the Europe chart, and it is climbing steadily, from some 5.2 million uniques in Sept 06 to almost 12.2 million in Sept 07.  Bebo doesn't show up in the top 10 for any other region.

I think one thing this may point out is that the old days of one product "winning" with all others falling by the wayside are over.  However in the special case of any social networking software, the people you care about all have to be using the same siloed software, too, at this point.

CalumJR wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-24-2007 7:05 PM

Again, I know a lot of people who use Bebo aswell, so I'm interested as to why it isn't mentioned...

It's not just in the UK is it? :/

Chris wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-24-2007 7:41 PM

Calum, a number of the social networking sites are regionalised. Facebook was predominantly USA until recently (the rapid growth).

quikboy wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-25-2007 12:27 AM

Live Spaces needs to get more developers.

I mean, compared to Facebook Applications, Live Spaces Gadgets are rather weak.

I mean, try searching on Live Gallery, and you're pretty disappointed with what you'll find. Pretty meager offerings, and Microsoft doesn't even make enough "official" gadgets themselves. It all relies on developers.

So if Microsoft would just entice more developers to go for a Live Spaces platform, and continue fixing up the Live Spaces platform, they'll remain strong.

I use Live Spaces a lot, because I just like the way it works, kind of, and I'm going to keep using it. I still want MUCH more though.

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on 10-25-2007 5:51 PM
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on 10-26-2007 5:53 AM

Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world? It's hard to watch. Really

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joeale wrote re: Windows Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?
on 10-26-2007 3:00 PM

Live Spaces needs to get more developers.

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