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Windows Live Photo Gallery gets new OEM partners, Sync integration, and more

Windows Live Photo Gallery from the Windows Live Essentials suite is getting some upgrades in the upcoming “Release Candidate” release too. Besides the many bug fixes (including the wlcomm.exe crash and 100% CPU usage bug ), we also found out from Brian Hall’s interview that Windows Live Sync (FolderShare) will come installed along with Windows Live Photo Gallery to sync your photo albums across multiple PCs, as long as you sign in with the same Windows Live ID on more than one computer: Perhaps more good news for Microsoft’s Windows Live push is that HP had recently signed up to include Windows
by damaster on 15 Nov 2008, 11:59 AM with 7 comment(s) and 1,464 views

December 2007 - OurView: The Opinion Blog

The LiveSide 2007 recap and a look at 2008

by Chris on 29 Dec 2007, 07:28 PM with 3 comment(s) and 6,940 views

Its at this time of year that people post their yearly recaps and scorecards, whilst looking ahead to the following year. While I've seen a generic Microsoft 2007 scorecard and a reminder of the branding mess that Microsoft created for itself in 2006, I haven't seen much else relating to Microsoft's online services (tip us if you have). With that in mind, here goes.

Search + Mobile

Search was the first point picked for our look ahead in 2007, and in terms of numbers, not a lot has changed in a year. Sure we've seem some ups and downs, however there is still a long way to go here. The September update has been a step in the right direction and all being well the next update should be due out in a few months time. As Kip said this time last year, Live Search needs to compel users to switch, so far it doesn't.

There is good news on the mobile front though. Live Search for Mobile has been going from strength to strength during 2007 and the various mobile clients (Windows Mobile/Nokia) have also been getting positive reviews. Microsoft needs to extend itself in these areas, both organically and through the various acquisitions made towards the end of 2007. After all, if you can't win search on the PC, the mobile market is still a very attractive option.

Wave 2

September 2007 saw the launch of Windows Live Wave 2, consisting of the core suite of desktop applications as well as some complementary sevices online. I just can't seem to swallow the kool-aid on this one though, perhaps because it took so long to get some of the products out of the door or perhaps because I'm of the opinion that more could have been achieved.

On the plus side we've now got SkyDrive, Events and Calendar in beta, though all three of these services bring with them their own questions about future direction. Social networking is definitely an area that Wave 2 has underdelivered on, and although Windows Live Groups is lined up in the wings, Microsoft needs to do much more to stay with the pace.

Overall Wave 2 has been a substantial and fairly complete update, so well done overall for this.

New products - Rock on Silverlight

Without a doubt the award for best product of the year has to go to Silverlight. Catchy name, great work from the development teams, and good corporate strategy by Microsoft in getting Silverlight onto some major websites. If you haven't seen the full-screen slideshow on www.nba.com you should definitely check it out. Its difficult to be hard on Microsoft when they come out with a technology that allows web developers to do this kind of stuff.

Branding + Market Perception

Not much to report on this one. Branding hasn't changed much during the year, and neither really has market perception. In fact when you consider the new products that have really taken off, Silverlight and to an extent Popfly, none of them show a hint of Windows Live branding anywhere near them. Perhaps the lesson has been learnt now, bottom line is don't brand something in Windows Live unless you really really have to.

Vista Integration

Windows Vista saw its consumer launch in January 2007, with Windows Live supposedly extending the operating system into the cloud. Though there are the new "replacement" applications like Windows Live Mail and Photo Gallery, performance in this area is almost as bad as that of the Ultimate Extras team. Sidebar gadgets? Desktop access to cloud storage? Keep dreaming. This Software+Services concept is something Microsoft appears to still be getting to grips with, so perhaps more realistically this is something we should expect more with Windows 7. That said, there is hope on the Horizon, see below.

Developers Developers Developers 

There's been a mixed year for the 3rd party Windows Live developers, who apart from Silverlight, have had little else to celebrate. Sure we've had the new Live ID authentication and some great demo sites available as part of the Windows Live Quickapps, however there still seems to be something missing. There is a lot planned for Mix08 though, so if you've been considering attending, definitely get in and buy your ticket now. Its pretty good for the free swag too ;)

Looking forward

So this is the area where we get ourselves into trouble, and in light of ThinkGeek (RIP) we'll mind our p's and q's. While we could talk about the Wave 3 planning, whispers of search rebrands, or the new WL Movie Maker product from the DMX group, our pick for the year to come has got to be Horizon. This is perhaps the most well known of Ray Ozzie's concept development projects, having also gone by the name Windows Live Core. While its still a way off seeing public light, we've heard its almost fit enough for internal dogfood. Time to reacquiant yourself with with your local Softie... 


Pay attention to FeedSync

by Kip Kniskern on 17 Dec 2007, 08:22 PM with no comments and 4,248 views

So yeah it's kind of a slow news week, not much happens just before the holidays, when things will really shut down.  But there's been quite a conversation going on among the blogs about Enterprise v. Consumer/Microsoft v. Google/Old Way v. Web 2.0, which kind of started when we posted the Bill Gates transcript from Mix n Mash.  Just to recap, here's a set of links to the conversation:

Google Gets Ready to Rumble with Microsoft - NY Times

Google and the Wisdom of Clouds - MSNBC

Overnight Success - Steve Gillmor on Ray Ozzie

Microsoft in Denial: Google Threat is Classic Disruption - Henry Blodget

MS v Google = Search + Apps - Dan Farber ZDNet

Is Eric Schmidt Leading Google Over a Cliff? - RatDiary.com 

As Microsoft Knows, There's More Than One Way to Disrupt a Market - Mary Jo Foley

I'm sure there are many more.  However, all of this discussion seems to boil down into a set of main themes: a) we are moving toward more cloud based computing, b) that may be a threat to Microsoft, and c) for the first time in a long time Microsoft may be facing some real competition.  So the big question is, what is Microsoft's response?  Is Microsoft an old-school software company, waiting to be disrupted and toppled?  Or do they have some tricks left up their sleeve?

The answer, or at least a big part of the answer, lies in FeedSync.  First announced in 2005 by Ray Ozzie (then called SSE), this set of RSS enhancements is going to be a backbone of one of the key concepts of Software + Services.  Microsoft is betting heavily that the desktop, and rich desktop applications, are not going away, but that the ability to synchronize content from the desktop to the cloud, and from desktop to laptop to phone, all from the cloud (or from other devices), offers advantages that pure cloud computing just can't.  Here's what Steve Gillmor said:

This is not a Google Apps versus Office fight, therefore. This is an Office versus Office fight. If there is no perceptual difference between Office HardDrive Edition and Office Cache Edition, users won’t care and will move based solely on ease and lowered cost of deployment. And guess who knows a hundred times more than Bill Gates about this. Scott Guthrie and at the uber level, The Father of Replication aka sync aka intelligent caching Ray Ozzie. Not pigeonholing Ray here, just pointing out work that in Ray’s case started in the 20th Century with Notes. This is Ray’s plan, folks.

FeedSync uses RSS or Atom to synchronize all kinds of data - it's interesting in these examples from the site that the calendar reference is used:

feedsyncdiagram

 

Everyone has data that they want to share: contact lists, calendar entries, blog postings, and so on. This data must be up-to-date, real-time, across any of the programs, services, or devices you choose to use and share with.

Too often today data is “locked up” in proprietary applications and services or on various devices. As an open extension to RSS and Atom, FeedSync enables you to “unlock” your data—making it easy to synchronize the data you choose to any other authorized FeedSync-enabled service, computer, or mobile device. FeedSync enables many compelling scenarios:

  • Collaboration over the web using synchronized feeds
  • Roaming data to multiple client devices
  • Publishing reference data and updates in an open format that can be synchronized easily

The diagram above shows how a hypothetical end user, Steve, uses FeedSync enabled services and clients to maintain his schedule. Steve can synchronize his calendar information to his laptop and mobile phone; with two-way synchronization through the Calendar service at the center of the diagram, all of his devices stay up to date.

because as much as FeedSync is an open source project, with a Creative Commons license, Microsoft has current big plans for FeedSync.  Just look at the RSS generated by a Windows Live Calendar feed, which currently has no sync capabilities, something that put it out of the running as a serious competitor to Google Calendar when it was released into beta:

feedsyncCal

It looks like Calendar will be one of the first Windows Live applications to use FeedSync.  There are most certainly others.  In a podcast published last week, Jon Udell talks with Steven Lees of Feedsync, who mentions Favorites as a Feedsync possibility, as Lees also did in his presentation to us at Mix n Mash.  No concrete news there, but a Feedsync'ed version of Windows Live Favorites makes a lot of sense.

Don't think, however, that Microsoft is thinking small with Feedsync.  Bill Gates, in his remarks to us, said:

And there are some high level services. Still today you have too many passwords, too many accounts. Any preferences you state just kind of stay in one place. Moving things cross-Web is still way too difficult. So, we have some new ideas that we can expose about that that will hopefully move the Web -- help it move at the incredible pace that it's been going along.

You know, MIX has become a great event for us, and I'm certainly in a lot of meetings where we're developing neat new stuff, and people say, well, will it be done by MIX or why don't you hold that till MIX. So, along with the PDC, which is more just the basic platform type things, I'd say MIX is our most important event for what we're doing in terms of developer technology.

We expect to see Microsoft making significant use out of Feedsync, and sooner rather than later.  As soon as Mix?  Well, that's why we're going :).


Bill Gates, Mix n Mash, and the future of Microsoft

by Kip Kniskern on 09 Dec 2007, 07:48 AM with no comments and 10,912 views

Being in the same room with Bill Gates, while it wasn't breathtakingly nerve-wracking (he is, after all, a geek, and we weren't there for a performance review, we were just lucky enough to be able to ask him a few questions), we were all still a little keyed up.  Since then, I've been reading some of the reaction to what was asked and what he said, and have been able to re-read the transcript a few times.  I think there were some key concepts that Bill touched on, and I wanted to take a bit to point them out before we move on to whatever comes next here at LiveSide.

Let's start by just laying out what I found to be the key takeaways as they pertain to Windows Live and the more general Software + Services realm, and match up some of what Bill said in his answers to our questions (and let me take the time here to really thank my fellow bloggers in attendance for asking an insightful, varied, intelligent, and fun set of questions).:

1.  Microsoft continues to be poised to sell to big business

We've come obviously a long way as an industry. We've got a good sized software industry, and we're revolutionizing most everything with digital approaches broadly.

Most recently, the idea of how you match buyers and sellers, and how you do deep collaboration, obviously that's become a defining application for the Web.

In the next few years, things should improve pretty substantially. I mean, we still don't think of TV as being a Web application, but the right pieces have been put into place to change that. The phone companies, AT&T and Verizon, actually do use Web-based delivery of video, non-broadcast, and, in fact, they're building infrastructures that allow you to do personalized video, so you can interact with the context, interact with the ads, things that we've targeted, high-definition, and they use a software platform called Media Room that we created to do that. That's one of the things we got into way before its time, have been working on it for a long time, and we're just at about a million people using that right now. Over time, we expect the cable cos will want to go with a broad software platform as well.

2. The consumer market may drive Microsoft's image, but not necessarily its core business, or its business decisionmaking

All those consumer services are basically big, big volume. They're tiny businesses in a sense, but they're very important for the population of users that you connect up to and the opportunities you get out of that.
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Some of the things like state in the sky, obviously we want to do a lot more innovation so that everybody just understands that they should use that. Today, no matter whose thing it is, .Mac or the various eDrive cloud store type things, they actually are all pretty small share, they're kind of messy to use. We think that by the way that we'll connect up to Windows in a rich way we'll be able to do something pretty dramatic there, but that awaits the next big wave that comes along.
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So, we always have a few categories like that, but most of our revenue -- who's revolutionizing management software? Who's revolutionizing security software? I mean, seriously, who do you think? The business computing market, which is way bigger than the consumer computing market, no one pays attention to it. Even in the Wall Street Journal, and you think, oh, this is the paper they're going to tell me about business computing; no, it's all about consumer computing. It's okay, but thank God for business computing, because it allows us to price our consumer computing stuff super cheap, and still pay the salaries of these wonderful researchers who like to be paid.
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Anyway, I'm -- (laughter.) It's not the first time I've heard that (MS not innovating). I'm not -- (laughter) -- it's a very common view that if you figure out how I can get rid of it, I will do so.

3. Microsoft plans to continue to focus on big business

Also in the Internet today, if you want to build an application that's going to be very high scale and very reliable, you're basically having to reinvent everything to do that. The vision is that people should be able to just subscribe to a service that takes care of that for them.

Now, no one is offering that today. Amazon offers raw computing with EC2, they offer raw storage with S3, but they don't offer a scalable model where you just basically write the app and then it scales infinitely. You have to do all the technical work still, because it's basically a UNIX machine is the paradigm.

The idea of cloud services that take care of fault tolerance, load balancing, and then let any kind of startup just have it be auto-hosted, and then, fine, if they're popular they pay a little bit for the capacity that is used, but they don't have to do some brilliant engineering design.

Pundits and bloggers, present company included, like to cry and whine about how this Web 2.0 company or that is going to take over and be the next Microsoft.  With a firmly entrenched Office, and desktop, and server market, and rapid expansion into developer tools for Rich Interactive Applications, video, datacenters, and cloud services, the reality is that Microsoft is positioning itself to be a player for a long time to come.

Does that mean that Microsoft should disallow or ignore what the pundits say?  Well no probably not.  The truth is that search share isn't growing, Apple is poised to take over a disturbingly large share of consumer desktop purchases,  and even Bill Gates knows the perception that Microsoft doesn't innovate is "a very common view".  Perhaps because Microsoft focuses largely on big business, it hasn't focused enough on its perception in the consumer market. Now, with Gates stepping down and Ray Ozzie nowhere to be found, changing the perception doesn't seem likely.  Steven Sinofsky is busy putting together his Ministry of Truth, concentrating on squelching leaks instead of building loyalty and compassion for his products, and the next generation of corporate business people are more likely to have used Google and Apple than the last (which grew up using nothing at all).  Bill addressed this as well, saying:

So, I think every business and organization benefits by communicating to its customers, to its partners, the more you do the better you are. Our success is not based on any type of secrecy about what we're doing. Apple likes secrecy, but good luck to them. It's not a period of time where it's that easy to keep secrets. There are various regimes around the world that are finding that, and various companies that want to surprise people with the big event. We want to make sure that we're not creating expectations we can't fulfill. So, we like to know when we're going to try and get something done before we promise it. But just talking about our general direction, we've always wanted to be totally open.
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I'll have to ask Dean what the hell is going on. I mean, we're not -- there's not like some deep secret about what we're doing with IE.

About 400 comments on the IE blog noting that Bill Gates in this discussion had openly called it IE8 for the first time (so much for that deep secret) seem to belie the contention that Microsoft is as open as it needs to be.

So will Microsoft continue to dominate, moving into new markets by building out datacenters and cloud storage, developing new tools like Silverlight, and continuing to win in the server and information worker markets?  Or will ignoring the pundits who claim that Microsoft must be more open, more conscious of a poor perception in the marketplace signal the beginning of the end of the software giant post Bill Gates?  Truthfully, it's why we do what we do here at LiveSide.  Either way, it's going to be a heck of a lot of fun to watch.  We want to thank the fine people at Mix for giving us the opportunity to speak with Bill Gates, and to continue the conversation.

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