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OurView: The Opinion Blog

Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?

Delicious Cherries! In the next few weeks, we’re going to be hearing a lot about Microsoft’s new brand for search.  We pretty much know it won’t be called “Live Search” anymore, and we’re hearing again and again that it won’t be called Kumo, either.  It doesn’t take much digging to find some strong hints that “Bing”, one of Mary Jo Foley’s original triad of possible new names (along with Kumo and Hook) might be the name of choice in Redmond.

Bing.com is registered to Microsoft (since March 4, 2009.  Before that the domain was owned by a guy in Australia) and controlled by Microsoft nameservers.  Microsoft controls Bing.co.uk, Bing.de, and Bing.ca, too (although not Bing.jp or Bing.cn – we didn’t do an exhaustive check on all the possible country names).  Of course Kumo is registered, too.

Bing and Kumo share similar US Trademark applications as well.  Applications are live for both names, as “computer search engines”.  Interestingly, Microsoft also has a Bing trademark application relating to Maps, but not for Kumo.  Note that neither Bing nor Kumo have trademark approval, yet.  Kumo is farther along in the process, but Bing hasn’t even been assigned an examining attorney.

So is it as easy as calling up TESS online and looking up Microsoft trademark applications?  Can a company launch a product in this day and age without blowing its cover?  Or are the days of “one more thing”, when we were truly surprised by a well controlled unveiling, over?  Even Apple doesn’t seem to be able to keep a secret anymore,  and we don’t remember the last time an announcement at an Apple event wasn’t thoroughly played out on Techmeme for days or even weeks beforehand.

Since trademark law recognizes convention priority (meaning that a trademark filed in one country has priority rights when filing in another country), and since trademark applications aren’t quite as easy (or free) to access in countries like South Africa, there’s still hope that a new name could surface.  Pulling off a new domain might be trickier, but we’re no experts in what it would take, and we suppose it could be possible.

dumbo Perhaps we’re holding out hope just because we just don’t like the name Bing very much.  A character in a John Irving story described hearing “a sound like someone trying to not make a sound”, and to us, Bing would be a name trying to be cool when no one could think of a cool name.  Now Kumo, it was kind of growing on us, and like the puppy Kumo that Joe Tartakoff at Paid Content has been so avidly tracking, it’s kinda cute.  Bing? Not so much.  Besides, it’s a clown name.  The ringmaster in Dumbo?  Voiced by Herman Bing.  We rest our case.

So whether it’s at All Things D in California next week, or SMX Advanced in Seattle, or somewhere in between, we’re hoping to be surprised and delighted by possibly the most important brand name unveiling in the history of Microsoft.  If not, who knows, maybe Bing will grow on us too. 

Comments

brentgv wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 3:30 AM

I get why "Bing" would be considered.  Search: What years did Steve Nash win MVP? *BING* Answer: '04-'05, '05-'06

But Kumo was growing on me too.  It sounds like Japanese strength: wise, nimble.  It sounds smart.

BasP wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 3:56 AM

Whenever I hear 'Bing', I think of Ned Ryerson from the movie Groundhog Day. I'm not sure you'd want to be associated with that guy. Although I guess he did keep coming back and eventually bagged the big sale.

lbastie wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 4:31 AM

Bing makes me think of Chandler Bing, from Friends.

Other possibilities of name for search: MSN? Kiev (I heard this neame at the beginning)? Yahoo?

foaf wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 5:05 AM

Google became a verb, and I suspect this is the major draw back of kumo. 'To kumo' or 'kumo it', does not sound as cool as 'google it', and Bing has the edge here with 'just bing it'.

In theory Yahoo could also be used as a verb, but I wouldn't be seen dead saying 'I'm gonna yahoo that'.

jamiet wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 7:57 AM

"Can a company launch a product in this day and age without blowing its cover?"

Yes. Microsoft themselves know how to do it. Who'd heard of Azure prior to PDC?

nutterguy wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 9:06 AM

bing.ie is also registered to Microsoft.

"Bing it"

mdsharpe wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 9:19 AM
Mephiles wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 10:10 AM

It appears the search is being separated from Windows Live.

JSYOUNG571 wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 1:42 PM

It needs to be left as Live search.

Edgar J. wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 1:55 PM

I still going to use Google.

yertthedestroyer wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 2:42 PM

Bing.it would be an interesting one too, so long as Microsoft was willing to sacrifice their Italy domain a little bit.

quikboy wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Thu, May 21 2009 9:52 PM

Honestly, these names sound weak. I guess Bing sounds better than Kumo, but not much better.

Live Search is already a fine brand name. People have gotten used to it. It just needs better algorithm and features to compete with Google.

I could still come up with better alternatives to Kumo and Bing though.Anyone have a better name?

xxdesmus wrote re: Kumo, Bing, or ???: Are secrets extinct?
on Fri, May 22 2009 12:08 PM

Bing is a terrible name. Live Search as a brand was fine. Ding would have been slightly less terrible than Bing, but they both suck. Google will continue to destroy "Bing" if that is the final name.

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