OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

kev — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:25:57 GMT

Morro is a clever, long overdue, move by Microsoft to neutralize adverse internet security arguments once and for all, about the extra costs associated with using the windows os as compared to linux/unix/mac systems while perhaps going some way to curbing the growth of linux in the 3rd world.

Microsoft has realized that the windows 'customer experience' is primarily in their hands and it cannot be left to 3rd party vendors, as they seem to have done to their detriment, in the past.

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

cJr — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:14:05 GMT

@surilamin:

I agree with your point there. Windows Live Wave 3 does seem to be the vision Windows Live was supposed to be.

It's still a shame that there are a few things they didn't pick up on though, like being able to select different colours as well as themes (a very stupid move in my opinion as some of us like to have the default design, but different colours, keeping it more porfessional for us) and they also haven't seemed to put new favicons in their code.

Some Windows Live websites don't have favicons, some have horrible old ones (e.g. Hotmail has that horrible embossed logo favicon which looks horrible sometimes, compared to the Live Search one which is used on some Windows Live websites).

Microsoft have been getting better at consistency between services, but there is still a long way to go and I don't understand how no-body in the company has noticed these inconsistencies. They can be spotted very easily. Most of them I spotted straight away!

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

surilamin — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:38:23 GMT

Microsoft generally take three or four revisions of a product to get something right. Case and point, Wave 3 (I think we all agree the Live services vision hasn't really come together until now).

Many of us saw the potential Onecare had with version 2.5 and it could have been a great product.

I hope Morro turn out to be a killer, and that they have learned from what they did with Onecare.

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

cJr — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:15:49 GMT

@quikboy:

'Morro' isn't the final name of the product (yet). It is just a codename, so it is likely to change.

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

Tony T — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:45:57 GMT

I've been happy One Care user since the beginning. Yeah, it sure does slow down startup sometimes, but I really like it.

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

quikboy — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:55:27 GMT

OneCare dying is pretty sad. I've heard of positive things before, like the ease of use, the PC hub, and all that, though I already had a subscription anti-virus that still hasn't ended its term yet.

I also liked the OneCare name. It just sounded kinda cool to me, and more original than something like Windows Live Photo Gallery. 'Morro' doesn't like a good name though. Anyone agree?

Well I hope Morro does at least the main thing that most security suites do : Protect users from threats that can hurt their OS.

I guess OneCare wasn't a quick seller also because some people thought it was Microsoft's way of pumping you for money when MS should have integrated this better security into Windows in the first place. Couldn't Microsoft just have OneCare functionality built into Windows, without calling it antivirus? Just say that it's a feature and you can still install any other security suite and disable the ones built into Windows, just like any other application.

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

avatar — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:45:44 GMT

but i do must confess that i got it for free when it came to my use until 2.5. 2.5 is the only version i paid for my use since i was a beta tester for it the whole way to now. but i did sold it to others and it was a success.

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

avatar — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:44:02 GMT

I disagree on your view of it Kip. it didn`t failed. it progressed in the anti-virus and security suite reports as it evolved. last version ended up in third place from a consumer standpoint and like 5 from general standpoint ( regular, premium). it also had the best price and the easiest ease of use. i say it as someone who has dealed with lots of security suites. it didn`t had great sales but it was doing OK and it was meant as a work in progress. but i do see your points. what i think is that they caved in to the heat and the pressure the development of OneCare brought. but Morro may be the payback. they still releasing a anti-virus/anti-spyware/anti-adware in one single utility and for free. and since it don`t comes bundled. it could still cannabalize the competition for regular security suites. i mean 2.5 anti-virus module was able to beat even Nod32. at the pace they were evolving. i am sure 3.0 would have been pretty much put OneCare at the Top of the game. but it is indeed sad that it didn`t got more marketshare. it did had something realy bad. if you had a bad/damaged,modified XP install. i would bully the pc up to version 2.0. this is something that only got resolved until 2.5. this is usually the cause of the flak it took and that made many to proclaim it sucked. for me the only version that were lacklusters were pre 1.0 and 1.0 final. 1.5 was nice, 2.0 was good, 2.5 is great.

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

Khristopher — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:24:47 GMT

I think it should never have been a Windows Live product in the first place. Windows product, sure, but not Windows Live.

I also think malware protection should be offered free in the first place.

re: OneCare and Morro: New Direction, or Fail?

tophtucker — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:36:29 GMT

I've been a happy OneCare user for some time now. Alas. :(

"(and the coming meshification of Windows Live)"

Will such a wonderous thing ever come to pass????