Windows Live Wave 4 beta available June 21, says Microsoft France

Our new friends at, a French Windows Live Messenger enthusiast site, have pointed us to what appears to be a definitive time frame for when we’ll see Windows Live Wave 4: on June 21. points to a site on, for students, announcing June 21 as the date that Windows Live Messenger (and we assume the rest of Essentials) to be released in beta:


Windows Live Messenger sera disponible en version beta dès le 21 Juin prochain. Les nouveautés sont très nombreuses et entre autres choses, vous aurez la possibilité de vivre l’émotion du live en HD grâce aux conversations vidéo HD 16/9ème plein écran, au partage de photos et de vidéos YouTube en conversation classique ou vidéo, et vos fenêtres de conversation seront organisées par onglets. Pour tout savoir, RDV sur la page Facebook de Messenger.

in English, translated by Bing Translator:

Windows Live Messenger will be available in beta since June 21. The new features are very numerous and among other things, you will be able to experience the emotion of the live HD through 16/9th fullscreen, sharing photos and YouTube videos in conversation classic or video, HD video conversations and your Chat Windows will be organized by tabs. For any information, appointment on the Messenger Facebook page.

(The blog post links to their Facebook page so no link to the actual post, but here’s a screenshot:


This weekend we pointed to a tweet by LiveSide reader Lituus, who predicted that Steve Ballmer would demo Windows Live Wave 4 “+ public beta” at the D8 conference in early June.  However according to Microsoft France it doesn’t look like we’ll be getting the public beta that early.  According to Microsoft Corp. VP Chris Jones on the Inside Windows Live blog, though, the timeline appears to be first private beta, then roll-out release of web services (Hotmail, etc.), and then the public beta:

For several months now, we’ve had several thousand people running regular builds of this code inside Microsoft, and we’ll shortly begin expanding this testing to some folks outside Microsoft for additional feedback.

We will then roll out updates to our web services, followed by betas of our software for Windows PCs, Macs, and phones. Our approach is to release betas to the public once we think the build is in pretty good shape, learn through beta usage data and beta user feedback, and make additional refinements that eventually become the final release. Of course, we’ll continue to update the service as we see how you use it every day and hear from you about what’s working and what needs improvement.

…so we still could possibly see the demo and a rollout of the web services on June 3, with an Essentials beta then kicking in on the 21st.  Or not, this is Microsoft and Windows Live we’re dealing with here ;).

(Thanks Maxime, keep in touch!)